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A different approach to learning music
A different approach to learning music
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waltertore
1002 posts
Feb 01, 2011
7:11 AM
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Most people learn music in a mathmatical way. This got me to thinking today. I am off from work due to an ice storm(another great benefit of being a school teacher). Most musicians I have met tell me they are good at math. This makes sense to me because music has been described as a mathmatical formula. I am borderline learning disabled in math. When playing full time started to fizzle on me I went to college while living in Austin. Math and science have always been difficult for me. So I went to the university center for disabled students and was tested and came out right on the edge with math. This was comforting in many ways because it confirmed I really do struggle with mathmatical concepts and not just "laziness" as my parents/teachers labeled me.
Since childhood I have been pulled to instruments and start playing them with no idea of what I am doing. The instruments don't present themselves as a puzzle that a book or instructor can unlock the answers, but as a magic wand that tells me the secrets to how it works. This experience consumed me and before I knew it I was playing my instruments 5-15 hours a day for many years. Nowadays I still play 25-50 hours a week. I had and still have no desire to try and figure out anything with my head. I am guided through this process by a spiritual force of some sort. It keeps me amused, curious, and passionate to continue trusting in it.
As I have gotten involved with the net I find most people, even self taught without instruction, have learned in mathmatical ways how to play music. They see a pattern and apply it elsewhere, etc. I have not done this. My hands drift on the guitar and piano until sounds come out that ring true to this force. The same thing with the harp and singing. I feel like the odd duckling with this aspect of music as well as my approach to spontaneously creating my words and music up as I go along.
I blew harps so hard I could wreck one an hour. I stole to buy new ones. This blowing too hard, I have learned on the net, goes against most everyones approach. I wouldn't have changed my way for a second because I was driven to blow hard. It was part of the way that magic wand of a harp taught me to play. Today I don't blow like that much anymore. Harps last me a year or so but I still will hit it hard when the mood hits. To set boundries is something my approach doesn't understand. It is about letting what is in come out.
I just realized a key piece of this story was left out. As long as I can remember, I have daydreamed in an extreme way. In school I was put in the class for trouble makers because I didn't pay attention in class, didn't open the books, when called on just sat there speechless, didn't turn in any assignments, and probably the key component would fight when provoked. It was usually pretty violent in those rooms and I hated being there. This was before there was special education classes in public schools. They just lumped all the problems in one room and warehoused them. I drifted out of those school rooms and traveled the highways of the universe. I went surfing at the beach, traveled around the world, played in big rock bands, and other such exciting things for most of my public school experience.
I realize now this was my "musical training ground" that connected me with the way I learn to play instruments/spontobeat and has guided me to spontaneously making up my words and music as I go along. I just close my eyes and drift and I go into another universe of some sort. This universe feeds me endless songs as well as putting me physically in the song. I am there. Let it be a hot Miss. day, a dark alley with junkies shooting up, a teen getting an abortion, a war, whatever, I am in it. At this point my instruments, voice, are playing themselves. I am the song. This is a very addictive thing that playing rehearsed music never tapped into for me.
I share this with everyone here for the same reasons people share how to lessons and also for anybody out there that has feels isolated from the norm because of the way they travel the world. For reasons unknown to me, I have discovered without any intent, this way of doing music and life. It just appeared like the genie from the lamp. I am off to my studio now. I feel the inspiration to record some songs. I am amazed this well never goes dry, gets boring, and I never worry it will! Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
Last Edited by on Feb 01, 2011 9:48 AM
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Littoral
267 posts
Feb 01, 2011
7:32 AM
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@waltertore
"In school I was put in the class for trouble makers because I didn't pay attention in class..."
Being a young hoodlum and now teacher I certainly recognize the karma.
I'm crappy at math too, so I also mimic a lot of the coping skills to learn music.
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waltertore
1003 posts
Feb 01, 2011
9:05 AM
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Littoral: Me to have been sent to teach school. I believe my calling to do this was to create meaningful pathways for people whose brains don't work in a way that fits the norm. Hench I am a special education teacher and work with Mentally Retarded and Autistic high school students. These people comfort me everyday much the same as those test scores did- there are many ways to view this universe. I also get a lot of regular education students as helpers throughout the day. These are the kids that the school has no idea what to do with. They shine in my class. I love observing my students and try to see how they see the world. Then I set up their universe so it can exist within our general population. It is a great experience to see kids that have bombed out fit in our society in meaningful ways. For my class it is running several businesses. We make homemade dog biscuit/horse treat/bird seed treats that 9 local businesses sell(we do mail order too), run a cafe that sells coffee, teas, smoothies, muffins, cinnamon rolls, pizzas, bagels, cookies, to the school staff and students. Everything is scratch made. We work with dough all day. Dough is a very healing thing. It has nurtured our cultures for thousands of years. It has been very rewarding to know life can have meaning for me outside of playing music! Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Greyowlphotoart
419 posts
Feb 01, 2011
9:47 AM
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First of all Walter, I must say you sound like one helluva nice bloke and your posts are always interesting and thought provoking.
I too have taken a similar approach to music but I think it's laziness on my part which has prevented me from learning the theory of music. I just don't feel motivated to want to learn and absorb it, is the simple truth. I do love to play instruments though and have plenty of motivation to learn how to play and experiment as my wife can testify!
When I'm improvising, my knowledge of what sounds come out of certain holes generally takes me along a musically coherent path. If I had a set of rules in my head as to what notes would work in this or that chord progression, then I feel it would hamper me.
I would be very interested to hear from a player who has a very strong grounding in music theory as to what they see in their head when improvising. ie do you see an equation as it were of the possible notes in the scale which will work over a given chord. How do you approach it?
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captainbliss
422 posts
Feb 01, 2011
9:55 AM
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@waltertore:
/I must say you sound like one helluva nice bloke and your posts are always interesting and thought provoking./
I second that.
I also wonder... Perhaps the pattern recognition / music-maths is done consciously by some and unconsciously by others?
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waltertore
1004 posts
Feb 01, 2011
10:04 AM
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Greyowlphotoart: Thanks and you also sound like a nice bloke(you must be English?). I like the way you play harp too. My approach to music has led to many discussions about what you asked. I have had lots of well know guys in my band that said it was vacation from their regular gigs that were entrenched in structure, including the solos. One musician who is world famous on the guitar use to come to my gigs and sit up front with a couple other well know guitarists. They would laugh and point alot. Finally I asked them what that was all about. He told me they were digging that I had no idea where I was going and was something he wished he could do. I thought they were laughing at my simple/mistake ridden playing. Man I'm glad I didn't punch one of them out before asking :-) This guy told me he wishes he could forget everything he learned and just flow. He told me magazines like guitar player and such go on and on about how he flows but in his head he is always thinking of the rules. He said that is what attracts so many highly respected players to what I do. Many others told me they thought of nothing when they play but when I asked them do they think about the next verse, what solo is coming up, when a break in the song is coming, and stuff like that, they said yes. Their world is based in a rehearsed, systematic approach to a song, cd, performance. Mine is not. No right or wrong, just different. I do sort of wish the music business wasn't so conservative though...
captainbliss: You are a shining star of being able to communicate in a civilized way!
Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
Last Edited by on Feb 01, 2011 10:10 AM
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Jim Rumbaugh
391 posts
Feb 01, 2011
10:19 AM
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When men build cities, there are lots of straight roads.
When nature builds streams, they twist to and fro.
There is beauty in both. I can see the value in both forms of learning and aproaching music.
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intermediate level (+) player per the Adam Gussow Scale, Started playing 2001
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Buzadero
721 posts
Feb 01, 2011
10:27 AM
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"When men build cities, there are lots of straight roads.
When nature builds streams, they twist to and fro.
There is beauty in both."
I'm giving you cross-thread points from the gay musicians thread.
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~Buzadero
Underwater Janitor, Patriot
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waltertore
1005 posts
Feb 01, 2011
10:33 AM
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For the record, I posted this thing to offer another way of seeing music and not to put one approach over the other. It is just I never see the way I have found to do music discussed. Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Greyowlphotoart
421 posts
Feb 01, 2011
11:13 AM
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Thanks Walter and yes I come from the south of England.
Walter wrote 'It is just I never see the way I have found to do music discussed.'
I think the reason for that is that your gift is completely original. I have never heard of anyone producing such a body of work and still doing so and keeping it fresh and alive to both yourself and the listener.
I appreciate it is not a question of whether one way or another is better as they are both valid and both methods may have certain drawbacks.
When I first started to try and compose music it was the lyrics that were the stumbling block. Sitting looking at a blank piece of paper and it looking straight back at me....nothing. Then I met this Scot who had just written down a whole bunch of new song titles and he asked me if I wanted to use some of them.
I said sure, but thought to myself what difference is this going to make. Amazingly having a title was the trigger I needed as ideas and lyrics just flew off the pen!
To spontaneously create music is one thing but to do the same with lyrics simultaneously is beyond me.
When you sit down to play do you have a theme in your head, such as 'Donwtown Traffic' and then the music and lyrics flow from that thought?
Some of the great classical composers such as Mozart or Beethoven were prodigious talents who were great musicians and composers and theorists. I wonder how they saw the music. Beethoven wrote some of his best work when he was almost totally deaf and scored it presumably from head to paper without an instrument to assist him.
By the way, are you ever anxious about hitting bum notes etc., - I'm guessing you're not. It's just that I feel I tighten up on a solo sometimes when my mind's aching to travel on uncharted ground but there is an underlying anxiety of making a mess of it.... That can't be a good thing, can it?
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Michael Rubin
84 posts
Feb 01, 2011
11:32 AM
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Mostly I use theory as an ear training method. I play scales and arpeggios and I learn what groups of notes sound like. Then when I jam, I think very little. I just play whatever the music wants me to play. But I believe that by practicing with theory my ear hears sounds that harmonize with the band. I feel like my jamming style has changed very little since before I got a lot more solid on theory (I understood it a little after just a couple of years of playing, got much more solid after 15 years of playing in pro situations) I still put a harp to my mouth and just feel it. But what I feel must be informed by the practice. Also, understanding theory has enabled to to be able to communicate with lots of theory minded musicians as well as be able to translate what the non theory minded musician is trying to communicate. Occasionally in a jam I will think through which holes create good sounds, especially if playing in an unusual position. Tends to be quick and once decided upon, not thought about too much.
Michael Rubin
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exdmd
10 posts
Feb 01, 2011
11:52 AM
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I think it is possible to over analyze the music making process. You should play what you hear in your head. If you are not hearing, listen some more. If you then can't play what you hear in your head, spend some more time learning your instrument.
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waltertore
1006 posts
Feb 01, 2011
11:55 AM
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Greyowlphotoart: I don't have a clue what is coming out of me when I start to play. I am mixing my morning set of songs as I type this note. One song is about the angel in charge of birth falling asleep and when he woke up I was born 20 years too late. I have no idea where these things come from and that is the part the part that keeps things fresh and exciting for me. It is like hearing a new song everytime I play. This is very addicting.
From a business perspective one can view a downside to Spontobeat being no one else doing it. It makes getting gigs, agents, labels, interested in what I do very hard because most all of the music industry operates in a very tight box with how a song, performance, recording, is done. But this also makes it very exciting too because all I need is the right person to come along. In this sense I have no competition. No need to come up with some new marketing angle to describe how different I am :-)
But from a soulful perspective there is only upsides to it. I am simply a vehicle to which these songs flow through so I never get tired of my music becuse it only part me and mostly the universe.
It gets lonely if I think about too much especially lately. I am in a lull with having a good gig. Historically I have landed in a really cool club on a regular basis and in between were lots of crappy gigs. I am no longer interested those things and will wait until the next cool club opens its doors to me. My last one was the blue heron inn in Ca, and before that the black cat lounge in austin. Forums like this help me feel connected and sharing my music is something I enjoy. I would love to meet others doing Spontobeat. I have had lots of people tell me how they do the same. But when I ask them to describe what they do it is usually they do instrumental jams, an ocassional spontaneous song, and stuff like that. I still haven't met anyone who does this everytime they pick up an instrument.
I find making up lyrics is a breeze because I literally go into the song. It is like being a reporter on the scene. I just sing about what I see. I believe anyone can do this if they allow themself to let go/free fall into letting the universe guide them.
I use to worry about the bad notes/mistakes when I heard songs on playback. During the process I never heard them. I have embraced this as part of spontobeat. For me, life is full of making mistakes and my art is my life. My latest hurddle to get over was posting so many songs. I have had people get angry with this. I stepped back and realized this is how I do music and now love watching the song total go up on my soundclick site. Thanks for the correspondence. Walter
Nigel Price, an author from England, is writing a book on my life. He lives in Mintey. Here is a link to his area. He is a great person and worth meeting if you get the chance.
http://maps.google.com/maps?rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_en&q=minety+england&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Minety,+Malmesbury,+UK&gl=us&ei=12RITdXcO4rTgQfH7-26Bg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQ8gEwAA
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Greyowlphotoart
423 posts
Feb 01, 2011
12:12 PM
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Just incredible Walter. I'm speechless....and that takes some doing:) Will check out the link.
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Joe_L
1034 posts
Feb 01, 2011
2:36 PM
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Hi Walter - Like yourself, I think I chose a different path. I started my journey playing the harmonica in a weird way. I received a Chrometta 8 as a birthday gift from my aunt. I didn't do much with it before shoving it into a drawer.
A few months later, I was reading the Chicago Sun Times. I was reading Big Walter Horton's obituary. The author made it sound like the last living Blues artist has passed away.
A few days later, I was looking at books at the University of Illinois bookstore. I ended up picking up a book entitled "Chicago Blues: The City & The Music." A couple of weeks later, they were running a Blues music series at the University of Illinois which featured: Lonnie Brooks, Koko Taylor, Eddy Clearwater and Billy Branch and the Sons of Blues. I was hooked.
I spent years listening to all sorts of Blues recordings. I spent years listening to other players in a live setting. I picked up Tony Glover's book and began spending years trying to recreate the sounds that I heard in clubs and on records. I wore out copies of records by Little Walter, Sonny Boy, Muddy Waters and Big Walter. I slowed LP's down to 16rpm. I moved tone arms on turntables in an attempt to decipher what I was hearing.
I went to clubs all over the Chicago and the suburbs absorbing the music. I saw everyone that I could see that was active on the Blues scene.
I never sat down trying to learn scales. I never tried to learn much music theory beyond a couple of classes in college. When I starting playing, I was studying math. I had no desire to do anything additional that was mathematical in nature. I was working full time. I was going to college full time. I wanted to have some fun.
I just wanted to play Blues.
Today isn't much different, I just want to play Blues and have some fun. I've already got a job. I've got a second one, too. I don't need a third one. If it isn't fun, I'll put it down for a while and go do something else.
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waltertore
1008 posts
Feb 01, 2011
3:34 PM
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Greyowlphotoart: Let me know if Nigel is near you. He wants to have the brain research guys hook wires up to my head as I play. He sees me as a schizophrenic while I play but somehow when I get done playing I am able to function normally in our world.
Joe_L: I can relate to your peeling the layers off the artichoke way of finding the blues. I love the blues. It is my favorite music and for much of my life that is all I wanted to play. I thought I would end up an old man onstage doing it like the guys I idolized. But underneath that I realize to play spontobeat I have to stay open to all musics that capture my interest. To put fences/no trespassing signs on my music kills the spontobeat. That was kind of a sad revalation at the time because I realized my umbillitical cord to the blues had to be severed and allowed to float freely. I dig lots of old rock and roll and parts of all kinds of music. I don't conciously try to incorporate any of it but it comes through. I feel a lot of lou reed velvet underground, bob dylan, the doors, bad company, miles davis shades of blue, sinatra, and stuff like that is in my music. Whether anyone else hears it I have no idea, but I do. The root of all amercian music is the blues and to play it right takes a lifetime and most of my life has been spent around it. I have seen many of these super octane players put the blues down as being to simple/boring but when they play them they couldn't hold a candle to the blues greats. Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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ReedSqueal
74 posts
Feb 01, 2011
7:26 PM
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A VERY interesting thread. Great insights.
Walter, seriously, have you thought about writing or creative writing at all? (Like you have plenty of time to take up writing) lol.
Or maybe your stories can only flow through music...not written words.
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Go ahead and play the blues if it'll make you happy.
-Dan Castellaneta
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captainbliss
426 posts
Feb 02, 2011
12:42 AM
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@waltertore:
Here's a classroom scene (Hard Times, Dickens, Chapter 2) you might enjoy...
"'Girl number twenty,' said Mr. Gradgrind, squarely pointing with his square forefinger, 'I don't know that girl. Who is that girl?'
'Sissy Jupe, sir,' explained number twenty, blushing, standing up, and curtseying.
'Sissy is not a name,' said Mr. Gradgrind. 'Don't call yourself Sissy. Call yourself Cecilia.'
'My father as calls me Sissy. sir,' returned the young girl in a trembling voice, and with another curtsey.
'Then he has no business to do it,' said Mr. Gradgrind. 'Tell him he mustn't. Cecilia Jupe. Let me see. What is your father?'
'He belongs to the horse-riding, if you please, sir.'
Mr. Gradgrind frowned, and waved off the objectionable calling with his hand.
'We don't want to know anything about that, here. You mustn't tell us about that, here. Your father breaks horses, does he?'
'If you please, sir, when they can get any to break, they do break horses in the ring, sir.'
'You mustn't tell us about the ring, here. Very well, then Describe your father as a horsebreaker. He doctors sick horses, I dare say?'
'Oh yes, sir.'
'Very well, then. He is a veterinary surgeon, a farrier and horsebreaker. Give me your definition of a horse.'
(Sissy Jupe thrown into the greatest alarm by this demand.)
'Girl number twenty unable to define a horse!' said Mr. Gradgrind, for the general behoof of all the little pitchers. 'Girl number twenty possessed of no facts, in reference to one of the commonest of animals! Some boy's definition of a horse. Bitzer, yours.'
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'Bitzer,' said Thomas Gradgrind. 'Your definition of a horse.'
'Quadruped. Graminivorous. Forty teeth, namely twenty-four grinders, four eye-teeth, and twelve incisive. Sheds coat in the spring; in marshy countries, sheds hoofs, too. Hoofs hard, but requiring to be shod with iron. Age known by marks in mouth.' Thus (and much more) Bitzer.
'Now girl number twenty,' said Mr. Gradgrind. 'You know what a horse is.'"
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PS Thank you for the kind words!
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waltertore
1010 posts
Feb 02, 2011
10:01 AM
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Captainbliss: that was a great story. Thanks for sharing it.
ReedSqueal: That is a great idea. All I need is another 40 hours in the week and I could do it! Actually I have a great idea for a childrens book about a feral cat's adventures traveling cross country in a motor home (true story of our feral that we tamed and traveled with us in our bus). I would illustrate it too. Once I retire from school teaching that is on top on my list along with waking up when the sun is shinning :-) .
Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
Last Edited by on Feb 02, 2011 10:07 AM
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mr_so&so
405 posts
Feb 02, 2011
11:34 AM
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Walter, I've been reading this thread with great interest. I'm currently studying to be an expressive arts therapist, and your description of how you create is fascinating. In the language of expressive arts, I'd call your process masterfully "following the image". That is, being present with your musical images as they emerge, not interpreting them, just helping them form. What is so fascinating to me is that you are doing this simultaneously in several artistic "modes", that is, music and lyrics, and while playing several instruments at once. Very cool.
For those who are asking "WTF?... Expressive arts therapy?", it's a form of therapy where the arts (all of the arts) are used to help people get "unstuck" psychologically. Art-making itself is viewed as theraputic. In the imaginal space of art-making, people can discover inner resources (strengths) that they can then take into their everyday lives. The arts also serve as a safe container for the expression of emotionally charged material (as it has been for the past 100+ years of the blues, for example). Expressive arts therapists do not look for pathology in art. We help people to make art, learn to stay with their images as they arrive, and after, to discover their strengths while living with their woundedness.
As for your original point about the intuitive approach to learning music, I think you share that with many people, probably most people in cultures where music, song, and dance are part of their way of life. They absorb how music works from their culture, from birth. In the West, we are impoverished that way, but a few people like yourself have managed to learn that way. It's probably a better way too, since I'm astounded by the music that came from many of the illiterate, uneducated blues musicians of the past that we still revere today.
I'm stuck with the mathematical model myself, with hopes that someday I'll be able to learn how to tap into the songs and let them unfold like you do.
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waltertore
1012 posts
Feb 02, 2011
11:54 AM
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Mr so&so: That is great what you are doing! This is what Sponotobeat has done for me- it has definitely been helping me get unstuck along with years of therapies for various stuff. I wish I could meet you and talk in the flesh about this subject. Just let go with love. Trying to let go of fear keeps one in fear. Blind love opens the door to what I do and my studio allows this to happen everytime I sit down to play. This is why I am being so particular about taking gigs nowadays. Most music gigs are not set up to do what you described (and what I do). Keep me updated on your progress! Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Greyowlphotoart
427 posts
Feb 02, 2011
12:03 PM
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Walter, I am curious to know how you view your body of work. Do you look back with fondness at your songs and view them as old friends or acquaintances or merely as ships that passed in the night and are forgotten.
Can you or do you look back with particular love of a track you composed, something that meant a lot to you or is your art always remaining in the current moment of creation and all the rest is water under the bridge.
I do not live close to Nigel btw.
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waltertore
1013 posts
Feb 02, 2011
12:33 PM
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Greyowlphotoart: Too bad you are not close to Nigel. He is a very spritual man that has become a great friend over the years.
My songs are like a photo album. When I listen back it brings me right back to that time. I remember every song believe it or not. By remember I mean when I listen to one I can say "such and such was happening that day in my life". I look with fondness on all of them because they were honest moments of time captured in song. I rarely listen back on them because I am so busy doing new ones but I do every now and then when the inspiration light isn't on to play. It inspires me to hear the recording/playing technique/mood of the song/amp used, etc, and usualy after a few minutes I am back recording more songs. I burn 2 cds of each session. One goes in the archives and 1 I take in my van (we have no stereo in the house) and I listen to it as I drive to see how my recording skills did. I am mixing todays songs as I type. I was off yesterday and today for snow/ice. That has allowed me to be recording for 12 hours in the past 2 days. The bad side is the time it takes to get them to wave and mp3 files...
In fact most times I am on the net it is while I am waiting for songs to load to wave and mp3 files. I use some great Universal Audio plugins but they take at least 3-5 minutes for a son to go from the 4 tracks to a wave file. Tonight I am cooking diner so I am going to have to stop in about a half hour. I just mixed my last song to wave and mp3. To load it to soundclick and post it takes about as much time as it took to record the darn things. I am thankful beyond words that I have taken the plunge into learning to record my music. My goal is to capture it as it sounds and with some warmth that is on the albums I love. It is a heck of a puzzle that never ceases to intrique me. Recording is what keeps me playing. Take care and thanks for the interest in what I do! Walter ----------
walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
2,600+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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