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Effects again - Line 6 M13
Effects again - Line 6 M13
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HarpNinja
742 posts
Nov 01, 2010
12:46 PM
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I've been noodling with a Line 6 M13, which is a larger version (but same effects) as the M9. I am working on getting a recorder - as evident by my spare gear pruge - but just wanted to mention a couple of cool effects I have been using with the M9 and now M13 that I haven't seen listed before...
Growler - which is like a synth with an auto-wah
Octo reverb - like a pitch shifted reverb
Particle verb - huge ambient sound
Attack Synth - sorta like a synthy ov synth sound an octave below the harp
What I've been doing most, now, is changing the mix of the effects with dry harp and layering effects. For example, using the sweep echo and octo.
Anyways, to make a point, between some of these and my "organ" scene (which now sounds fantastic), I can literally take the "harmonica" out of the band and add all sorts of rhythm layers usually filled by a keyboardist.
My next goal is to work up a patch that sounds like a string section. I also want to fool around with a Univibe.
The M13 is pretty sweet. You can be using a scene of 12 effects and have a totaly new scene on deck with one push of a button. You can also set up something like 48 scenes. Currently I have my default scene - which includes those listed above with a tron up, several delays, and a bass octaver - a "blues" scene - which is the octaver, several delays and a couple of reverbs - and my organ scene - which only has four presets (octaver, pitch glide, rotary drum and horn, and spring reverb).
The only con, in my mind, is that some of the effects don't track chords. However, with the exception of a bass octaver, I haven't felt the need to play chords with any of the filters/mods that don't work with chords.
Obviously things like delay work with chords, etc.
I realize other modelling gear can do similar things, but the layout and setup of the M13/M9 is so fool proof! You also don't have to worry about setting up amp models or cycling through effects. It is exactly like having a real pedalboard at your feet.
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Mike
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hvyj
781 posts
Nov 01, 2010
7:10 PM
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Mike sez: I can literally take the "harmonica" out of the band and add all sorts of rhythm layers usually filled by a keyboardist.
I say: Well, not really, because on harmonica we cannot "build" chords like a keyboard can--we are stuck with the chords available on the harp which are pretty limited. But i bet you sure can get some interesting sounding "voices" though.
Btw, I just got a Retro-Sonic Chorus/Vibrato pedal. Really nice unit and very harmonica friendly. But, what sounds good in the living room doesn't always sound good live, onstage, in public, so I need to take it out to play one of these days soon to give it a real work out. But I'm very optimistic!
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HarpNinja
744 posts
Nov 02, 2010
8:32 AM
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You can build chords with it, but I haven't monkied with that beyond the organ stuff. The Octo verb and Particle verb are ambient effects that mirror what a keyboardist would do, include chords, and respond to single note playing...so you can build huge layers by playing single notes.
Not all the mods and filters work well with harmonica...I was bummed the Uvibe wasn't all that harp friendly, but all the important ones are there!
I am trying to decide if I like flangers and phasers with harp and I don't think I do.
@hvy...if you ran a compressor, would you run it after the effects?
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Mike
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HarpNinja
745 posts
Nov 02, 2010
11:14 AM
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That's what I thought, but you had made a comment in a different post about using them with effects...I wasn't sure how having one before would impact the effects. Whilst digging online, I read that compressors are either near the front or in the back.
At any rate, I'll probably try one out at some point in time.
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Mike
VHT Special 6 Amp for Harp Blog
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