TahoeMike00
67 posts
Aug 02, 2010
6:33 PM
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Is there a place for #1 hole draw/bend in blues?
i.e. is it "typical" to bend hole one in blues.
The reason I am asking, is that I was told no - but it sounds good... to me anyways. So I wanted to get a consensus.
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KingoBad
317 posts
Aug 02, 2010
6:36 PM
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Yes, there are plenty of places. Where are you getting this info? Is there a place for the 4 draw bend in the blues is the other question you'd be logically asking as well...
Last Edited by on Aug 02, 2010 6:40 PM
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Blues13
48 posts
Aug 02, 2010
7:24 PM
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Hi Mike. Adam uses the one hole bend in sunshine of your love. If you go on is youtube chanel there's a lesson on this song.
Martin
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kudzurunner
1715 posts
Aug 02, 2010
8:03 PM
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The 1 draw bend, cross harp, is the flat fifth. That's a key note in the blues scale; it's the same as the 4 draw bend. What's not to like? I use it in many places. Little Walter used it in the Evans Shuffle. I use it in half a dozen ways, maybe a dozen. I use it on bar 6 of a blues when I want to imply the diminished chord.
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hvyj
500 posts
Aug 02, 2010
8:20 PM
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Bending the 1 hole draw in second position gives you a flat 5th which is in the blues scale and is, in fact, a "blue note," Draw 1 is the same note as draw 4, just one octave lower. So, yeah, it works absolutely great for playing blues.
BUT, in third position 1 draw bent gives you a major 7th which is NOT a good note for blues. In first position it gives you a flat 2d which is not generally a useful note.
In fourth position 1 draw bent gives you a major 3d and in fifth position it gives you a major 6th. Fourth and fifth positions are most often used to play in natural minor keys (and fourth can also be used for harmonic minors). Playing a major 3d or a major 6th would not work if one is playing natural minor or harmonic minor--in fact, it would sound REALLY BAD.
But there's no reason whatsoever to avoid playing the 1 draw bent when playing blues in second position since it's a blue note and is a scale tone in the blues scale.
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groyster1
288 posts
Aug 02, 2010
8:37 PM
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@hvjj
is 1 draw not a root note in 3rd position like 4draw?
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silpakorn
11 posts
Aug 02, 2010
9:23 PM
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@groyster1 yes, and if you bend the root 1/2 tone down you get major 7th.
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hvyj
501 posts
Aug 03, 2010
4:34 AM
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@goyster1: Yes, it is the same note an octave lower. Major (do-re-mi) scale, third position:
D1 B2 D2* D2/B3 D3** D3 D4* D4
D4* is major 7th. D1* is major 7th an octave lower.
* = half step bend.
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GamblersHand
203 posts
Aug 03, 2010
4:42 AM
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Another great example of the bent 1 draw is the sustained note leading into Magic Dick's harp solo in Pack Fair & Square (J Geils Band)
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TahoeMike00
68 posts
Aug 03, 2010
10:37 AM
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OK, that's what I thought. Seemed logical to me, especially since I was looking at a layout chart and it shows a Db on a #1 draw/bend. (for C harp)
I will have to ask the instructor for clarification that told me this. Maybe I just pain old misunderstood what he was saying.
@ Adam "What's not to like?"
That's what I asked myself, not knowing music theory (but learning) I should have trusted my ear.
@KingoBad - my instructor told me this - right after I showed him how well I was bending the 1 draw.
As mentioned I will ask for clarification next lesson..
Thanks everyone!
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joeleebush
44 posts
Aug 03, 2010
7:58 PM
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Some bad information being tossed around here.
That one hole draw can be used in second AND third very effectively.
I can take one draw, one draw bent, along with 2 and 3 and improvise 24 bars in 3rd position and none of the licks will be the same.
The one draw works VERY well in 2nd and 3rd, but only as a passing note in first. I cant speak for 4th because I am not very good there.
At HCH in Mississippi (where I've been invited by Adam next year),I will neatly demonstrate this. And coach you on where and how to use it, 3 feet from you in a sitdown (exactly like probably 20,000 other blowers who can do the exact same thing as me and probably better)
The point is....don't scrap that one draw, clean or bent.
Regards
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Sandy88
70 posts
Aug 03, 2010
8:17 PM
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I use it on bar 6 of a blues when I want to imply the diminished chord.
Why specifically on bar 6 do you want to imply a diminished chord?
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TahoeMike00
69 posts
Aug 03, 2010
8:39 PM
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@joelebush Aha! The plot thickens...
And dangit, when are some of the classes etc. coming to central California!?
...yeah, California isn't exactly the heart of blues country.
And I missed SPAH in Sacramento simply because I hadn't picked up the harp yet.
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