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Buddha
1605 posts
Apr 14, 2010
8:20 AM
Although John Walden didn't solo you can still hear his blues style through his fill. I think it's interesting how two non-blues players in Bonfiglio and myself have vastly different approaches to playing blues.

This clip is a good example of why I say I'm not a good blues player, my blues playing isn't lick based and will never sound remotely traditional unless I'm trying to be that way.




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Kyzer Sosa
344 posts
Apr 14, 2010
8:40 AM
i get so lonesome, i could cry.... good stuff...

i think dude mic'd your amp somewhere in the middle of your solo, or turned you up or something. it isnt bad chris, its you, man. so you werent a good traditional blues player here. bah... your play added a different flavor to the mix and after all, takes all kinds
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Buddha
1606 posts
Apr 14, 2010
8:44 AM
I think originally, one of the harp players' mic was turned down but ultimately it was the wrong one.

Bonfiglio the soundman, who woulda thunk?


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JimInMO
47 posts
Apr 14, 2010
8:46 AM
Hmmm, sounds like blues to me. Good job.
Ev630
247 posts
Apr 14, 2010
8:48 AM
Your blues playing is basically all the jazz phrasing and European melodic sensibility you've picked up, played over a blues progression. So in that sense, it's lick based. Just not trad blues lick based.
Buddha
1607 posts
Apr 14, 2010
8:55 AM
check out what I'm doing at 2:18 I think its something that even traditional players would add to their arsenal yet I don't ever hear anybody do it.

When you blow bend 8 enough to detune it and don't bend blow 9 at the same time, you get a cool little double stop that pops out that bold overtone.


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HarpNinja
381 posts
Apr 14, 2010
9:14 AM
I would have to disagree this is riff based. It is very melodic compared to most blues stylings, but the note choice is related to the blues as is the rhythm...did you hear the bends and slurs during the last verse of solo (leading into 2:18)? Totally blues playing but not necessarily riffy.

Robert seems more lick based in his approach, but it doesn't grab me nearly as much as the jazzier stuff he was doing on chromatic - but I get why he'd do it that way. He is extremely versatile and trying to compliment the song in a traditional manner.

But I don't here the jazz and European stuff...just lyrically driven blues harp playing using the appropriate scale.

I will be woodshedding the blow bend stuff tonight...I am not sure what is being played, but it is over the one in what sounds like 2nd position - so it ain't your typical 1st position stuff. I'll concede that it probably was a little jazzy/chormatic running up from there into the IV.


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Ev630
248 posts
Apr 14, 2010
9:28 AM
It sounds great, Mike. I just don't think you can pretend that jazz players don't work and rework ideas the way that blues players do. Unless they're geniuses like John Coltrane. I thought Chris's playing was sweet. But I was also thinking it sounded a lot like some Brendan Power and some Toots Theilemanns stuff I listen to. This isn't a slam on anyone. I just don't agree that you can say blues guys work themes and stereotypical motifs (which I agree 100% they do), and pretend it isn't happening in other genres.

These clips have been very enjoyable. There's no doubt that Chris is a terrific musician. I also had never heard Bonfiglio, and I enjoyed his chromatic work immensely. His diatonic work, not so much, though it's still solid.
HarpNinja
382 posts
Apr 14, 2010
9:38 AM
Oh it happens in all genres. In fact, I bet most players on any instrument have motifs they use in nearly every song, if not all the time in every song.

Even someone like Coltrane was recycling scales, riffs, and rhythms all over the place. It is how those ideas are recycled that makes them interesting.

What might be different in blues is that those riffs maybe last most of a key change vs a bar or two, or don't have the rhythmic variety found in other genres.

That is just what I've heard listening to music. Players have trademarks they use over and over. I suppose if they didn't, they wouldn't have their own "voice".
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The Gloth
333 posts
Apr 14, 2010
1:51 PM
I like it a lot. Very melodic, sounds almost like a violin... all good.

Great playing from the guy on the right, he does much more than fills actually, he really holds the melody almost like a bass.

The playing of the guy in black doesn't touch me at all, it's classic playing but nothing more, and too much amped for my taste.
harmonicanick
712 posts
Apr 14, 2010
3:06 PM
Bonfiglio - 4/10 poserish
Chris - 5/10 by his own admission
3rd bloke - 5/10
DevonTom
88 posts
Apr 14, 2010
4:43 PM
The third man gets 4 points taken off for playing over Chris . Bad manners.


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