littleeasy
17 posts
Apr 13, 2010
2:16 PM
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I bought a HG2 amp, and by the way Brian is one top notch guy, anyway I cant get the volume over 7 without getting feedback. I,m using a shaker dynamic mike running through a Boss DD3. Should I get a anti feed back pedal, I found one by kinder and it was $345, wow. Any other options? Any ideas? Please help I love the amp and would like to get some more volume and crunch.
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MrVerylongusername
1060 posts
Apr 13, 2010
3:02 PM
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Quite a few options, but the AFB+ is the only harp specific one I know of.
Amp position and a tight cup round the mic are the first places to start. Someone posted Greg Heumann's youtube clips on cupping the other day. Watch them: a tight cup can reduce feedback and by changing the tone going into the mic, give you the fatter, crunchier sound you want.
EQ settings - scooping the mids. An EQ pedal gives you more flexibility than the single tone control on the HG2.
You might want to play around with the delay pedal settings. Long delays encourage feedback, and pedals generally have an output level which is adding gain to your signal before it hits the amp.
As for other options, the Behringer Shark is an inexpensive notch filter which will actively hunt feedback frequencies. The Rocktron Hush pedal is a kind of noise gate which also works to reduce feedback. The sought after version (read: greatly inflated ebay resale value) is the old microhush, but the newer blue version works for me.
If you're cranking the volume to be heard over a guitar stack, the better solution is to find the sound you want at lower vol and mic up the amp to the PA or use the line-out.
or... you could just tell the guitarist to turn down.
Last Edited by on Apr 13, 2010 3:07 PM
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Nastyolddog
550 posts
Apr 13, 2010
3:13 PM
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Bro drop the fancy pedals toss them in the bin you don't need them,
i got the same rig broke out my Shaker Dynamic to give it a whirle wich i rarely use to see how it sounded in the HG2,
what i did was turn the volume on the mic down,then turned the Volume to max on the HG2,then turned the volume up on the mic to the leval i wanted i mucked around for a while feeding in some tone,
to get it sounding good to my ear,
well what a suprise
the shaker is a good match up for this amp,
Bro if you can't get it sounding good without pedals
you won't get it sounding good with pedals :)
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eharp
629 posts
Apr 13, 2010
3:33 PM
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nasty- are you using a impedance transformer for the shaker?
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Nastyolddog
551 posts
Apr 13, 2010
3:44 PM
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Yo eharp no mate,
no fancy stuff just useing volume and tone controls to get it right,
you may wish to bump up the tone when the volume of the mic on full,so i just reduce the volume on the amp a litle bit and feed in a bit of tone to tast,
then you have the volume control on the mic to play with backing it of a bit turning up the volume or tone,
this gives you 3 controls to fine tune you won't just walk up and hay presto instant tone you like,like i say you will need to do some fine tuning with the controlls:)
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eharp
632 posts
Apr 13, 2010
4:53 PM
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thanks.
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Ray
189 posts
Apr 13, 2010
4:59 PM
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Call Brian and see what he suggests.
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strawwoodclaw
16 posts
Apr 13, 2010
5:12 PM
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The Volume at 7 should be fine , all amps will feedback at some point. If you turn the amp up until it starts feeding back then turn it down a touch you should have the sound you want. I would try different microphones if you want a bigger sound the vintage ones are normally best. A AFB+ pedal I would of said was more for big amps when you need extra power when playing in a band. also the delay pedal might cause it to feedback abit quicker a Lonewolf delay is made for a HIZ mic but alot of people a Boss DD3 & seam to do ok
Last Edited by on Apr 13, 2010 5:14 PM
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Zhin
416 posts
Apr 14, 2010
1:14 AM
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You should only be able to get the volume above 7 if you're in a huge hall or stadium. :p
I suggest you take the effects off first and use the amp for like a month with just your microphone.
You need to get to know that amp without having all those tone sucking pedals plugged in. Then once you KNOW how it sounds at it's best, you can try changing it up a bit with the pedals.
The other thing is that SOMETIMES effects pedals can cause a lot of potential for feedback.
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littleeasy
18 posts
Apr 14, 2010
6:31 PM
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thanks to everyone for the info. I'll try all. Once again BHF is the place to get the info from people out there doin it. Everyone gets a christmas card from me this year!
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Harpaholic
32 posts
Apr 15, 2010
9:55 AM
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Nastyoldog is right on the money! Listen to his recommendations!
I do the same thing, crank up the volume to at least 3/4 of the way, and control the volume with the volume control.
99% of all amps will not go above 7-8 without feedback. 95% of all tube amps sound best turned up. To get good power tube saturation, you need to crank the amp.
AFB is overkill, the Beringer Shark will suck tone. The old style Black Rocktron Hush can help a little. EQ's are more trouble than there worth. Some delay pedals made for guitar will increase feedback.
My number one recommendation for pedals is the Lone Wolf Tone + It kills feedback, fattens up the tone, and adds bass. Ask Joe L.
Keep in mind, the higher you turn up the tone control, the more likely to feedback.
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Joe_L
160 posts
Apr 15, 2010
8:36 PM
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The Harp Tone+ is a killer pedal. It's very useful.
If you need more volume, you need to buy a bigger amp. You aren't going to be able to turn up very many harp amps to their limit without feedback.
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