jonsparrow
2595 posts
Mar 19, 2010
11:56 AM
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iv found that if you dont play for like a day or two an then pick it back up every thing you been practicing sets in an you can play it allot better when you start again. any one else notice this?
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GermanHarpist
1289 posts
Mar 19, 2010
11:59 AM
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yes, very true point.
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alleycatjoe
30 posts
Mar 19, 2010
12:07 PM
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sometimes that true, i think maybe you give your ears a rest. maybe you are more relaxed when you start back. also with rest you come up with new ideas but its always good to play a little every day, pablo cassals the great cello player use to say re practice : "if i dont play for a day i know it, if i dont play for two days my friends know it, and if i dont play for 3 days everyone knows it." that really has to do with the level you are on. if you just try to play fifteen minutes a day thats pretty good for maintenance. you dont want to lay off of the harp for two long you will loose alot. dont get into the one step forward and two steps back syndrome.
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Blueharper
97 posts
Mar 19, 2010
12:08 PM
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Sometimes I won't play for 2 weeks or more,but LISTEN
very intensly.
And I have the same feeling of getting better.
I do this periodically,and you would'nt believe how good I sound when I don't play ;-)
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Tuckster
437 posts
Mar 19, 2010
12:33 PM
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Ya,I don't know why it works. Maybe you get a different perspective after laying off for a while. I've gone as long as 2 weeks not playing. It's mostly when I can't stand anything I play. I know a good player who says he doesn't play for a month.
Last Edited by on Mar 19, 2010 12:35 PM
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kudzurunner
1269 posts
Mar 19, 2010
1:23 PM
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It's called latent learning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_learning
Your unconscious is working stuff out; your synapses are integrating all that new knowledge. This is happening while you're sleeping or doing other stuff.
It's a very real phenomenon.
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RyanMortos
691 posts
Mar 19, 2010
3:01 PM
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Latent learning is the shiznit!
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Cisco
98 posts
Mar 19, 2010
3:07 PM
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Yep, happens all the time with harp, bass and guitar for me.
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tookatooka
1299 posts
Mar 19, 2010
3:38 PM
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So, if I leave it for a year will I be better than if I only left it for six months?
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mojojojo
33 posts
Mar 20, 2010
4:40 AM
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i must be a very good latent learner. i practice waaay too little to even be able to hold my own on stage with a 12-member Chicago-style blues and soul band. They have 20+ years exp each. I'm in my 3rd year as an enthusiast, not a musician.
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jbone
293 posts
Mar 20, 2010
6:50 AM
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what adam said. if you give your subconscious some time to reorganize things you know but don't really know you know, it all gets put into different and available perspective. you'll be amazed sometimes.
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congaron
713 posts
Mar 20, 2010
9:42 AM
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"i practice waaay too little to even be able to hold my own on stage with a 12-member Chicago-style blues and soul band. "
That is if the sound guy is letting you off the stage...lol. 12 pieces may have swallowed you up altogether, unless the sound guy thinks you're good enough. You might want to make sure you are not just in the monitors, just for your own peace of mind.
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Heart2Harp
9 posts
Mar 20, 2010
10:42 AM
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Actually, latent learning means that you are learning from observing others. As an examples, I found that after days of listening to a blues harp playlist I had programmed on my Ipod, I would play riffs I had never played before. It is a very real phenomenon but not exactly the phenomenon jonsparrow describes. I think he is more describing the concept of Memory consolidation. Although, as Kudzurunner correctly mentionned, it presuposes a good night sleep for the synapses to reconfigure. And as Jbone mentions, it might also be a change of perspective, which allows you to use your ressources differently and thus produce different results. Sorry guys, I'm finishing up a PhD in psychology...I can't help it. Thank god for music, otherwise I'de be thniknig about this stuff all the time.
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ZackPomerleau
822 posts
Mar 20, 2010
10:47 AM
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Isn't it similar to someone who is a body builder? You can exercise all you want but the muscles won't develop unless you rest for a day or so.
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Heart2Harp
10 posts
Mar 20, 2010
11:00 AM
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The body builder analogy is pretty good. Although muscle fibers actually tear up and grow back together stronger. The crucial difference is that brain cells can either learn to work or to be inhibited. A lot of learning is actually learning which neural connection not to use in order to use the minimal energy to produce the desired behavior...Good God! I'm such a psychology nerd
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