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Anyone use a water glass for tone?
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LittleJoeSamson
260 posts
Mar 15, 2010
3:20 AM
I have heard of Kim Wilson doing this. Legend has it that Big Walter did, too.

I tried it tonight and it really fatted up the low end...really greasy! Somehow, it made the amp sound louder, too. I used my newer Blackheart Handsome Devil piggyback, voiced for harp. No special mods, just good tubes: 2 X 6BQ5 Sylvania shiny black plates for power...
Mullard 7247 in V1, Sylvania long box plates 12AY7 in V2.
Sucker honks!
Even had no problem with compensating for volume against four other instruments/players and vocals.

It was kind of awkward: holding the mic, harp, and water glass at the correct angle...but I made it work.
I put the harp almost directly above the glass opening, and then had to kinda balance the mic sideways with my left hand. Seemed to work best with low note, minor blues...and actually sounded good on an original West Coast Swing number we do.

Anyone else use a glass or something similar?
Kingley
1010 posts
Mar 15, 2010
3:26 AM
I often use a glass or metal tin for playing off a vocal mic. In certain numbers it can add a really nice touch, plus the audiences love it.

Many people do it. Jason Ricci, Dennis Gruenling, Big Walter, Kim Wilson, Peter "Madcat" Ruth to name just a few.

Another I often do is to use the harp mic against my throat and play acoustically so the sound is picked up by the mic through my throat. This gives you a unique sound and is great in some slow blues numbers. Steve Guyger uses this same trick to play bass lines on the harp during guitar solos in duo settings. Sometimes using his harp, sometimes just his voice.

Last Edited by on Mar 15, 2010 3:27 AM
7LimitJI
11 posts
Mar 15, 2010
11:28 AM
I like the sound it gives, but I tried it at a gig, thru the vocal mic and it just fed back like crazy.

I may try it again ,but would need to get the band volume right down and play off the mic.

Never tried it through my amp, will need to give that a go too.

Throat thang is interesting as well.


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Joe_L
86 posts
Mar 15, 2010
11:31 AM
Only, if I am messing around. It's an effect that can easily be overused. You won't see people doing it all night long.
jonsparrow
2573 posts
Mar 15, 2010
12:29 PM
what are you talkin about like playing into a cup?
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7LimitJI
13 posts
Mar 15, 2010
1:29 PM
West Weston does a wee bit here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAwnSFbg7mY
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jonsparrow
2575 posts
Mar 15, 2010
3:21 PM
ah i see. neat. kinda makes it sound like a muted trumpet.
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RyanMortos
681 posts
Mar 15, 2010
4:18 PM
Howard Levy plays into a mug for a bunch of the 'world music' stuff he does.

This IS NOT BLUES & it's closer to world music then anything else so if you think you might not like it you've been warned ;-P .

In this example he plays into a mug from about 0:30-1:45. I might also mention that he shreds on the harmonica after about 3:30! This example is at least 3 years old but the first one I found:



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~Ryan

"I play the harmonica. The only way I can play is if I get my car going really fast, and stick it out the window." - Stephen Wright

Pennsylvania - H.A.R.P. (Harmonica Association 'Round Philly)

Contact:
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Last Edited by on Mar 15, 2010 4:21 PM
jonsparrow
2576 posts
Mar 15, 2010
5:13 PM
so like...if you were to play that little 4 hole hohner keychain would you use a shot glass?
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RyanMortos
683 posts
Mar 15, 2010
5:24 PM
"so like...if you were to play that little 4 hole hohner keychain would you use a shot glass?" - jonsparrow

Yes! But, on the other hand, if you plan on using a 16-hole chromatic you need to get a full sized beer pitcher :D .

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~Ryan

"I play the harmonica. The only way I can play is if I get my car going really fast, and stick it out the window." - Stephen Wright

Pennsylvania - H.A.R.P. (Harmonica Association 'Round Philly)

Contact:
My youtube account
jonsparrow
2579 posts
Mar 15, 2010
6:15 PM
lol. next time im at the bar imma have to steal one.
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Kyzer Sosa
198 posts
Mar 15, 2010
7:26 PM
nope, typically i use mine for water...
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LittleJoeSamson
261 posts
Mar 15, 2010
9:21 PM
I'm now considering having a "sleeve" of a water glass with a 'hole in the bottom' cut to fit for one of my stick mic's!
Would make it hellalot easier than holding three things at once!
It's weird and cool at the same time! Kinda like reverb mixed with phlanger, but more potent. AND acoustic.

There is a science to all this, but it's a burgeoning field ( Not really..I made that up! Heh! )
No, ...think about it.. Acoustics is considered for LARGE places; but it applies in even tiny places.

As harp gods, we manipulate sound in oh so many ways!
Albey
3 posts
Mar 16, 2010
4:18 PM
Playing Harp with a water glass is a great effect. The first person I saw and heard using it was Big Walter way back in the 70’s. I used it in the song Lightning Bug Blues that we recorded in 1994. If this works you can here it here.

Lightning Bug Blues



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Albey Scholl
The Shadows
Blind Willies Blues Club
Atlanta, GA
http://www.blindwilliesblues.com/

Last Edited by on Mar 16, 2010 4:25 PM


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