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Bluebird
28 posts
Jan 25, 2022
11:19 AM
My band (like so many other bands) plays Flip Flop fly. Basically the Downchild version. We are not a blues band, so this is a bit of a showcase for my playing - and the crowd always seems to love it (maybe because it's one of our closing songs - when drinks have been consumed).

The problem is that I can't seem to come up with anything new or exciting (at least to me).

Can anyone point me to some versions that might be inspiring, or even include some of their own solo ideas for the song? Ideally there would be some point where it really sizzles!

I just find that I always end up playing the same stuff, and most of the improvements I have made over the last 2 or 3 years in my playing just aren't translating to this song.

I don't know if that makes sense, but I thought someone here might get what I mean and be able to help.
KC69
625 posts
Jan 25, 2022
6:07 PM
Jimi Lee has a Cd out with JJ Slyde: I like what Jimi does in this song. His Cd is called Live In Austin TX
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barbequebob
3668 posts
Jan 26, 2022
7:01 AM
Try listening to the big Joe Turner original version first and listen to everything the horns are doing for starters:



Cotton's version:


The main thing it comes down to is working WITH the groove and stop worrying about how flashy you have to be in order to inspire yourself. Listen to a lot of jump blues, ESPECIALLY jump blues horn players, which is what Little Walter used to do all the time and a lot of his licks were copped from those horn players. Many of them did solos where they hung on to the same note for longer than 4 bars and played rhythmically and powerfully and trying to get too melodic can make you play sloppy and totally grooveless if you're not careful, especially if you have very serious time problems like many harp players tend to have. Don't keep making the same dumb mistake too many harp players tend to do and that's just listening only to other harp players and little else beyond that. Trying listening to some great jump horn players like Red Prysock, Hal Singer, or Earl Bostic, just to name a few for ideas. Listen not only to what notes they play, but also something else many harp players totally suck at, and that's their use of dynamics as well.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
snowman
735 posts
Jan 26, 2022
8:40 AM
Found this for ideas-----has harp fills and harp solo at about 3;37

agarner
93 posts
Jan 26, 2022
5:36 PM
Seems like a great 3rd position opportunity.
Bluebird
29 posts
Jan 27, 2022
1:21 PM
Thanks for your ideas everyone! I'll do some listening and practicing, and hopefully get some zip back into it.
LFLISBOA
129 posts
Feb 01, 2022
7:27 AM
There's a 1973 Turner's album featuring Rod Piazza and Jimmy Forrest called "Boss Man of the Blues"(LMI Records), but could not find it on Youtube.

Check Rob Paparozzi version
https://youtu.be/txgugL3YswY

Regarding LW, I'd like that you could point some specific songs which licks were copped from those horn players, because I cound not find much. I found much more licks from piano and zydeco players copped by LW.

Thanks
barbequebob
3672 posts
Feb 01, 2022
8:15 AM
Speaking of Rod Piazza, here he is doing his own cover of a Big Joe Turner classic, Low Down Dog, and I believe he's using a Bb chromatic in 3rd position here.


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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
snowman
736 posts
Feb 01, 2022
10:26 AM
"there's a 1973 Turner's album featuring Rod Piazza and Jimmy Forrest called "Boss Man of the Blues"(LMI Records) could not find it on Youtube."

man I looked everywhere to buy cd---many lp's no cd's
I may have to get a cheap turn table??
LFLISBOA
130 posts
Feb 01, 2022
11:02 AM
Here you may get a MP3 copy. Probably you'd have to ask for a re-up.
https://dontaskmeidontknow.blogspot.com/2016/06/big-joe-turner-boss-man-of-blues.html


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