GamblersHand
147 posts
Jan 27, 2010
2:52 AM
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A few people have recently posted that 3rd position isn't limited to minor key blues. True enough, third can give an interesting alternative to endless cross harp. It's got a darker, more dramatic sound to my ears.
A couple of my favourite blues solos are in 3rd against a major key (I think, sometimes I'm not 100% sure when it's a major or minor when it comes to blues) - Gary Primich's "Dummy on Your Knee" and Paul DeLay's "I Can't Quit You No". Can't anyone think of some more recorded examples?
Last Edited by on Jan 27, 2010 1:15 PM
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hvyj
106 posts
Jan 27, 2010
4:04 AM
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Btw, besides the blues scale, using a few bends one can also get a major do-re-mi scale in Third Position starting on draw 2:
D1 B2 D2* D2/B3 D3** D3 D4* D4
Although this do-re-mi scale is not what would be used for blues, one can certainly also play major key blues in Third Position.
Last Edited by on Jan 27, 2010 5:44 AM
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Bluefinger
8 posts
Jan 27, 2010
4:14 AM
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George Smith - "Telephone Blues", "Rocking" and many more
Little Walter - "I Got To Go"
Kim Wilson - "Got To Let You Go" (on Smoking Joint album), "You Upset My Mind" (on the Jimmy Reed Highway album)
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GamblersHand
148 posts
Jan 27, 2010
4:33 AM
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hvyj - good point, though assume that that first note should be 1D? And I certainly need to work on my 2 draw half step bend.
Bluefinger - thanks, keep 'em coming
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hvyj
107 posts
Jan 27, 2010
5:44 AM
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Yes. My error/typo. I will edit it to make the correction.
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jawbone
248 posts
Jan 27, 2010
6:31 AM
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Good post - I don't use 3rd enough.
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If it ain't got harp - it ain't really blues!!!!
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Jim Rumbaugh
137 posts
Jan 27, 2010
9:47 AM
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I think a qualifier is in order here, in order to not confuse the people trying to learn 3rd position
3rd position MAJOR scales can be played in te first octave, starting 1 draw, if you can do good bends on 2, 3, & 4 draw.
Where most people LEARN 3rd position, is minor scales starting on 4 draw. I can not do major scales above 4 draw. As far as that goes, I RARELY drop below the 4 hole in 3rd position. Call ne lazy, I can take it.
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sorin
128 posts
Jan 27, 2010
10:03 AM
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One of the best example is William Clarke - Blowin the family jewels he plays in 3rd position , and as you can hear this is no minor song . To hear the song just press the play button on the top left side of the page .
Ps: for a tab of this song ..stay tuned
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harmonicanick
571 posts
Jan 27, 2010
10:30 AM
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am I right that if the tune is in Dm you use a C harp?
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barbequebob
399 posts
Jan 27, 2010
11:47 AM
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You can use a C, but remember, there are other positions, plus there are harps that are specifically tuned minor, plus in different minor scales. LO's have harps (with harps labeled in 2nd position) for natural minor, harmonic minor, as well as melodic minor.
3rd can be easily played in a major, but the single most important ingredient to do that sucessfully is to make sure ALL of your bends are spot on ACCURATE in its intonation and articulation and those who play with too much breath force on their bends and force it all the way to the floor will have a difficult time doing that and when the time is taken to woodshed with better breath control and more accuracy in the bends, then 3rd in a major is pretty fun.
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harmonicanick
572 posts
Jan 27, 2010
11:55 AM
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thanks Bob
I have all the LO minor tunings, but at a gig the other day I dident have them, and the leader shouted Dm, so I counted one back, if you like, and it was fun.
I carry apart from the majors, Am,Cm,Gm..usually sees me through, but I preferred it on the C
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bluzlvr
304 posts
Jan 27, 2010
1:09 PM
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Really like Jerry Portnoy's work in "Lookin' For My Baby".
http://www.rhapsody.com/player?type=undefined&id=tra.3167273&remote=undefined&page=undefined&pageregion=undefined&guid=undefined&from=undefined&__pcode=
Last Edited by on Jan 27, 2010 1:11 PM
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hvyj
109 posts
Jan 27, 2010
4:10 PM
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You know, it's actually easier to play the blues scale in Third position than it is in Second Position. There's only 1 bend (draw 6), so less skill is required.
Last Edited by on Jan 27, 2010 4:11 PM
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