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overdraws 7 - 8 - 9   (not blow bends)
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robin
4 posts
Jan 26, 2010
9:54 AM
A question,

I can hit all me bends and overblows (1 4 5 6) but when it comes to those illusive overdraws, I have never been able to hit one.
For example if I play second position blues scale, top octave (6+ 6ob 7+ 7od 8 9 9+) to play it properly you have to hit the 7od. Or third position major scale (4 5+ 5ob 6+ 6 7 7od 8) I'm confronted with the dreaded 7od, I think you get the idea lol.

Any help or advice would be great lads.

Thanks
Buddha
1322 posts
Jan 26, 2010
9:58 AM
it's good to know them as an exercise but in general they sound like shit so don't bother with them.

The 8 OD is completely useless.
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robin
5 posts
Jan 26, 2010
10:29 AM
in that case what do you do if you wanna play say for example fifth position major scale from 5+ to 8+ which has the 7od in it. Do you just skip that note and except the scale as incomplete on top end of the harp or is there an alternative note?
HarpNinja
94 posts
Jan 26, 2010
10:41 AM
I only really play the 7 and 9 ods as lead ins to 8 and 10 draw. They are too unstable for me to use in a chromatic run, etc. The technique needs a harp really set up to do that. You have to really push your tongue to the front of your mouth like when playing a blow bend in a first position blues.

This is one instance where it takes a little more controlled force to hit the note. Really, any other bend should be played with the same sort of pressure as a regular note, but the ods are a different animal. Carlos DelJunco can put them in a musical context.

Overbends aren't hard to play. They are extremely hard to play well, however.

In regards to your question, I wouldn't choose 5th for a major scale, but if I had to, I would play the note when the music called for it.
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robin
6 posts
Jan 26, 2010
10:45 AM
It makes me wonder how those guys like levy can play in all 12 positions on 1 harp, impressive.
HarpNinja
96 posts
Jan 26, 2010
11:10 AM
It is super impressive, but I look at it like this:

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I could play a blues in 12th, but there are just some grooves and progressions where it works better than others. I want to pick the harp that gets me the best sound, and not just all the notes.

I could use an electric screw driver to put up the towel rack, but I might strip the screw...so maybe I should just do it by hand and see that it gets done right. Then I could eyeball it or use a level...depends on if I want it level with the house or the floor.


Everything is rhythm and tone. Remember that and it will solve a lot of problems.
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Buddha
1323 posts
Jan 26, 2010
12:13 PM
"in that case what do you do if you wanna play say for example fifth position major scale from 5+ to 8+?"


Why would you want to do that? There are other positions that sounds so much better for playing major scales.



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harmonicanick
570 posts
Jan 26, 2010
2:55 PM
Everything is rhythm and tone

I agree, so Robin chill


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