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Indigojam
7 posts
Jun 24, 2020
1:22 PM
What key harp would you use to play along to minor swing by django reinhardt

Last Edited by Indigojam on Jun 24, 2020 1:23 PM
jbone
3237 posts
Jun 25, 2020
5:15 AM
Depends on root key of the song. I do similar stuff in 3rd position so I can access the whole harp with TB.
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Grey Owl
1049 posts
Jun 25, 2020
6:59 AM
The song is in A minor and a key of G harp in 3rd is ok but playing along it seemed easier on a Key of C harp in 4th position.

So the basic opening phrase is a double draw bend on hole 3 then blow 4, blow 5, draw 4 draw 5 draw 6



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Last Edited by Grey Owl on Jun 25, 2020 7:00 AM
Indigojam
8 posts
Jun 25, 2020
10:15 AM
Cheers for that guys that helps a lot thanks
dougharps
2137 posts
Jun 25, 2020
10:46 AM
I like using a C chromatic for this song in Am. It is a lot easier on a chromatic than on a diatonic as you don't have to hit bends exactly on pitch. The chromatic has the notes available without using bends, yet can be played expressively.
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Gnarly
2827 posts
Jun 25, 2020
6:04 PM
Hands down, the Rory Hoffman ChordoMonica tuning in A minor.

RorDog rocks!

Last Edited by Gnarly on Jun 25, 2020 11:17 PM
Sarge
794 posts
Jun 25, 2020
8:51 PM
Rory Hoffman is an amazing person!
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Grey Owl
1050 posts
Jun 26, 2020
12:24 AM
Wow, how have I managed to live so long and not known of this gentleman. What an incredible multi-instrumentalist musician!



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rbeetsme
1718 posts
Jun 26, 2020
4:32 AM
I'm more comfortable playing it in 2nd position on a Dm harp. I asked Jason Ricci about it once and he played it for me in G, third position. Staple gypsy jazz tune, well worth learning. I have heard it on a chromatic, missing something to my ears.
Rhartt1234
271 posts
Jun 27, 2020
6:24 AM
Grey Owl
1051 posts
Jun 27, 2020
9:12 AM
Here is another video I found. Some very impressive playing on a standard diatonic C harp in 4th position.





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Grey Owl
1052 posts
Jun 27, 2020
9:29 AM
Indigojam. You might find this video useful. After running through the song with a harp layout showing the notes played on the first part of the video, he then goes more slowly into more detail. Again in 4th position on a C harp.


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LFLISBOA
79 posts
Jun 27, 2020
2:57 PM
Sandy Weltman also does in 3rd position. I think 3rd gives a different flavor

https://youtu.be/DqD_M_1REYo

and there's the late Michalek, but it's not in 3rd, I guess
https://youtu.be/oWcn2yPqzVQ
Gnarly
2828 posts
Jun 27, 2020
9:59 PM
Here’s a Video I made quickly to demonstrate a tuning that will work.
The Harmonica is F harmonic minor, so wrong key for this tune but you could make one in A minor.
Of course, you probably just want to practice your overblows and bend it like Ricci.
https://youtu.be/-uDQU_pnHS0
Not much of a performance, I didn’t practice, but it is feasible.
Grey Owl
1053 posts
Jun 28, 2020
6:18 AM
Nice find Gnarly. Here is a guy with some nice ideas on what he calls an augmented E harp?? Just to add to the already impressive bunch of players in all the videos above.







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Last Edited by Grey Owl on Jun 28, 2020 6:19 AM
Gnarly
2829 posts
Jun 28, 2020
8:17 PM
Thanks man--I have too many weird tunings to master them all, mainly practice chromatic but diatonic is the right tool for lots of music.
And Richter (excuse my German) is a great tuning for lots of it, but harmonic minor has those weird intervals, cheating appeals to me.
I learned Minor Swing from a David Grisman record, haven't really learned the version most folks are playing these days.

The guitarist in this video evidently learned it from the same source--at :23 (the beginning of the head) he plays two Am arpeggios, then plays a Dm arpeggio and realizes his mistake.
At least I didn't screw up in front of a Mooncat . . . hey Jason, don't look at my video man . . .

Last Edited by Gnarly on Jun 28, 2020 11:42 PM
timeistight
2307 posts
Jul 01, 2020
1:34 AM
How does Rory Hoffman's Chordomonica tuning differ from Cham-ber Huang's?
Gnarly
2830 posts
Jul 01, 2020
4:13 PM
Rory's got two different tunings he dreamed up on chromatic to include more chords.
I asked him once to share the tuning, but didn't hear back from him.


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