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Any 12th position blues recommendations
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kham
167 posts
Nov 30, 2019
8:16 AM
I'm looking to practice some 12th position songs. Any recordings out there I could use to practice would be greatly appreciated. 12th position christmas songs would also be welcome as it is that time of year. Thanks!
Sundancer
306 posts
Nov 30, 2019
9:51 AM
The Beatles’ Yesterday is great fun in 12th. Try Grey Owl’s version - he gets the fills nicely.

Here’s a version with tabs: https://youtu.be/Y73n9J4gf3A

And his more recent version: https://youtu.be/x2k4nOxI_ts

And check out the movie Yesterday. It may be heresy to say it on a blues oriented site, but the world would be a lesser place without the music of John, Paul, George & Ringo.

Last Edited by Sundancer on Nov 30, 2019 12:08 PM
The Iceman
3974 posts
Nov 30, 2019
2:16 PM
12th position = great for not blues...."Somewhere Over the Rainbow", for example....
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SuperBee
6341 posts
Nov 30, 2019
3:17 PM
I checked Grey Owl’s tab; That is how Christelle encouraged me to approach the song. She was advocating I do it for bend practice.
I did.
I think it helped in its way.
Sundancer
307 posts
Nov 30, 2019
3:54 PM
hola Super Bb. This version is bendier than the Pacific Coast Highway just south of Carmel. So probably not the way you’d play it in a show. Superb bending practice though.
SuperBee
6342 posts
Nov 30, 2019
5:10 PM
Ah, the bendy coast road! Sundancer, you taunt me with dream imagery

Yeah I think CB was keen on it, as it moves from 3 semitone bend to the 3 whole tone bend in a couple places.
Superbe! Bb bending practice (and A, F etc)
SuperBee
6343 posts
Nov 30, 2019
5:12 PM
12th position blues Kham.
There is a nice video of Madcat Ruth playing Nobody Knows You in G on a D harp. It’s fun.
LFLISBOA
61 posts
Dec 02, 2019
4:28 AM
David Burgin "Animal Walk" would fit 12th position (he doesn't overblow). Carlos Del Junco recorded many songs in 12th position, but would require lots of practice (at least to me)
Martin
1621 posts
Dec 02, 2019
6:49 AM
You can set your teeth in "When you wish upon a star". I´ve never been terribly fond of the hole 5 OB (I play OOTB harps) and try to avoit it in a descending line.
Of course, there are special tunings to simplify things, but 12th is an interesting option if your bends are reasonably tamed.
Jim Rumbaugh
1337 posts
Dec 03, 2019
7:22 PM
Georgia

here's a link to a tab I did.

Georgia in 12th position

Sheet1 Title,GEORGIA IN 12 TH POSITION ON DIATONIC HARMONICA Rhythm 4/4,Tempo,SLOW SHUFFLE DISCLAIMER,THIS IS MY INTERPRETATION, THE ORIGINAL SONG IS NOT EXACTLY LIKE THIS, OTHER VARIATIONS EXIST 1,2 1,2,3,4,1 VERSE -6,7,-,-,-,-,-,X,-6,6 GEORGIA,GEORGIA 5,6 1,2,3,4,1 -6,7,8,-,-,-8,-6,7 OLD,SWEET...



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Last Edited by Jim Rumbaugh on Dec 03, 2019 7:27 PM
Jim Rumbaugh
1338 posts
Dec 04, 2019
5:43 AM
FWIW

12th position does not have an easy flat 7th a.k.a. the dominant 7th, like the 5 draw in second position. That makes finding "Blues tunes" more difficult.
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theharmonicaclub.com (of Huntington, WV)
ridge
773 posts
Dec 04, 2019
8:11 AM
Kham - are you familiar with 12th position or are you looking for a way to break into 12th?

I find these kinds of requests interesting. If you know your major scale or minor pentatonic in a given position you should be able to transpose a known song/bass line/riff into another position. Even if you can't actually PLAY the scale, it's a good mental exercise/written exercise.

Not specifically trying to call you out, but I am curious how others approach this as I am of the general belief there are not a lot of players who make this logical step on their own.

Similar to another post I shared, if you just focus on playing a major triad over the I/IV/V you can come up with the outline of rhumba type groove

So if you were playing in 1st position

+1 +2 +3 (I Chord - 1st Position)
2" 3"' +4 (IV Chord - 12th Position)
-2 -3 -4 (V Chord - 2nd Position)

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Ridge's YouTube

Last Edited by ridge on Dec 04, 2019 8:13 AM


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