AppalachiaBlues
7 posts
Jun 03, 2017
5:37 AM
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It's been awile since Lone Wolf launched the Boogieman. Other than the initial wave of endorsers and fans, I've not seen too many user reviews. Are any of you guys and gals using one? It would be great to hear some user feedback.
I am particularly interested in 2 use cases: gigging into a PA system, and recording. It would be great to hear some opinions and experiences of users... Thanks!
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jun 03, 2017 6:27 AM
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20REEDS
40 posts
Jun 03, 2017
8:13 AM
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The Boogieman is a combination of the harp tone+, harp break, and harp delay and a di box
My view is that you are sacrificing flexibility for convenience.
If you know for sure these are the only pedals you would use, this is an awesome option. If you like other effects in your chain, you would be better off getting the three pedals separately.
Last Edited by 20REEDS on Jun 03, 2017 8:16 AM
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AppalachiaBlues
8 posts
Jun 04, 2017
11:55 PM
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It seems to me that the 4 pedals integrated into the Boogieman provide the most useful core functionality. The format is indeed practical and good value. But it should not prevent you from using it with additional pedals like Octave, Flat Cat, or Reverb, if you want to further alter your sound.
I'm looking for a good basic solution to add some depth, dirt, and tone when playing through a clean PA system at gigs. Also thinking it would double as a "virtual amp" for producing home recordings on my Mac.
I'd be interested to hear from someone using the Boogieman, about how satisfied you are with it.
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jun 04, 2017 11:59 PM
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John M G
140 posts
Jun 05, 2017
4:29 AM
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I love mine, I've also added a Harp attack which I thought would be a duplicate some of the Boogiemans features but I like what I'm getting from both of them and the ability to switch in our the Harp Attack, the Boogieman harp break is really useful when you take a lead or switch it off if you just want to sit back in the mix.
I'd been told early on that you needed both reverb and a bit of delay and with the tone feature also included it seemed like an economical way of going when I made the decision to buy it. I can honestly say it has been one of my best decisions. I've relied on my amps for reverb up to now and one of the reasons I'm going to go for the Pro Block 200 rather than add a reverb pedal to try and keep the weight and stage footprint down.
So I've been really happy with my Boogieman.
I also added a BBE Sonic Stomp box to the chain about a month ago and still playing around with it.
I've been using the Boogieman for about a year. I'm just waiting for the Octave pedal to arrive to give a change of color during the sets.
I've been using the xlr output on the Boggieman to drive my own foldback, I'm using an old Fender Frontman 25 for that, but the band I play with are going to look at trying the xlr direct into the PA.
I'm upping the anti on the amp, going for a Quilter Pro Block 200 and building a 2 x 8 cab with Celestion NTR08-2009D's
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Chris Sachitano
19 posts
Jun 05, 2017
9:06 AM
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LWBC offer a 100% guarantee, so if it does not meet your needs, he will take it back.
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AppalachiaBlues
9 posts
Jun 05, 2017
12:58 PM
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Thanks John.
That's interesting that the Harp Attack pairs nicely with the Boogieman for you. I would have not imagined them together.
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jun 05, 2017 1:09 PM
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Moon Cat
689 posts
Jun 05, 2017
4:06 PM
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I would personally second what 20REEDS said: "If you know for sure these are the only pedals you would use, this is an awesome option. If you like other effects in your chain, you would be better off getting the three pedals separately." Sure you can run other pedals before or after the Boogie man but here are a couple of very important things to consider: 1.)The order of your effects is a big deal to HOW the effects function individually and collectively. For example running a compressor or almost any other non "drive" effect before a pre amp is dramatically different sound than after it...Also running it after reverb/delay means your verb/delay will be compressed rather than your compression having delay etc there IS a difference! 2.) One of the cool features of the Boogie man which attracts artists like Howard Levy is the simple XLR direct out. Adding an additional pedal eliminates that function and then creates a need for another one. One could simply purchase, say "The Little Red" direct out from Lone Wolf or another DI out instead and then have their pedals in the proper order, for their sound, not dictated by a devices design. The Boogieman is a great simple solution on it's own and 20REEDS really nailed it...I wouldn't recommend running hardly any pedals (Exclude Harp Shield or another drive device before) if any before or after it (The "Harp Attack is a drive). Hope that helps-J
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Last Edited by Moon Cat on Jun 05, 2017 4:09 PM
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John M G
141 posts
Jun 05, 2017
7:01 PM
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I have to say that I'm a real novice with any pedals. So my experience is limited compared to the real professionals.
My first pedal was a boss delay way back in the late 80's and that went to my nephew back in the mid 90's
I've looked at other peoples chains and listened to their sounds and tried to arrive at something that works.
So I was probably pretty lucky to chose the Boogieman as a first proper harp pedal.
For the last year I've been really happy with it.
Now I'm doing a lot more public playing I'm looking to expand my range of effects for tone color variations.
I certainly have already found some issues that have had a bad effect, but I'm still very much in the learning stage and have no other harp players local to guide me.
When I bought the Harp Attack and the Octave pedal (which is still in transit) I said to Brad at "Harp Attack" in Australia the local agent for Lone Wolf that I wasn't going to die wondering!
I'm having fun playing around and I also like the sound I'm getting which I guess has to be the deciding factor.
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AppalachiaBlues
10 posts
Jun 05, 2017
9:59 PM
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I think for me, the convenience and economics of a 1-box solution outweighs the disadvantage of limiting my rig to just 4 pedals. I've been using just a cheap delay pedal and DI box into the PA. So the step up to the Boogieman should be worthwhile.
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jun 05, 2017 10:00 PM
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Moon Cat
691 posts
Jun 06, 2017
12:21 AM
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Appalachia I think you right!
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www.mooncat.org
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Komuso
689 posts
Jun 06, 2017
4:41 PM
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Great thread. I usually use software (NI Guitar Rig 5) or a ZoomG3n but have been interested in trying out some hardware pedals for small gigs.
I was looking at getting a Boogieman recently and also couldn't find many reviews.
Flexibility was an issue, as well as cost.
In the end I went cheapo and currently working a Joyo American sound with a Donner Yellow Fall delay.
Not a bad combo for < $60! Works great into the mic channel of my little Vox Mini3 G2 or direct to computer.
Still interested in the LW pedals though, but expensive to get in Japan.
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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
HarpNinja - Learn Harmonica Faster
Komuso's Music Website
Last Edited by Komuso on Jun 07, 2017 12:22 AM
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AppalachiaBlues
11 posts
Jun 06, 2017
11:54 PM
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Thanks Komuso-san.
Yes, the Boogieman is not cheap, but it is roughly 60% the price of buying all 4 LW pedals separately. The savings is bigger if you include the cost of power, pedalboard, and jumper cables needed with the 4-box solution. So the Boogieman is a relative bargain.
I am also considering a clone of the Joyo American sold here in Europe by Thomann (Harley Benton American TrueTone). Its even less expensive than the Joyo.
I trust that LW products are the highest quality, optimized for harp, and deliver a much better sound than most cheap guitar pedals. But its like comparing a Mercedes to a Hyundai... you get what you pay for.
One potential disadvantage of the Boogieman... I read that the on/off switch for the Break also controls the Tone. So you cannot use Tone without using Break - can any users comment on this?
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jun 07, 2017 6:10 AM
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Komuso
691 posts
Jun 07, 2017
1:26 AM
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True, but don't forget most of the classic blues tones/tunes were created on the Trabat's of the times, not the Mercedes.
I'm not against good gear either.
I'm loving the Steinberger ST-2FPA TranScale Synapse I recently picked up to replace my stock Hohner G3T (needed a refret/pickup replacement) I've been playing for the last 25+ years.
I can really appreciate the difference even more now I know what I want to do with it!
It's part of the reason I had to pass on the LW though, budget blown.
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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
HarpNinja - Learn Harmonica Faster
Komuso's Music Website
Last Edited by Komuso on Jun 07, 2017 5:03 AM
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AppalachiaBlues
12 posts
Jun 07, 2017
6:16 AM
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Yes, budget is the constraint for me as well.
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jun 08, 2017 7:49 AM
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Chris Sachitano
20 posts
Jun 07, 2017
7:24 PM
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I don't think that it would technically hijacking it if I ask if anyone has experience with the boogie man and pairing it with a good portable looping system? I'm currently trying to find a solution.
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TetonJohn
315 posts
Jun 08, 2017
11:17 AM
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Quick chime in:
I am very happy with mine -- loving the convenience (when I don't want to mess with bringing an amp). However I am not gear obsessed right now, so I can't say I've "put it through the paces" in any extensive way. For example, IF shutting off the break disables the Tone+, I did not even notice! When I don't want the sound of the break, I use my vocal mike; so I don't use the pedal with break off.
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AppalachiaBlues
14 posts
Jun 10, 2017
4:51 AM
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This morning I went to my local harp shop (Major Pigalle, in Paris). They just received a fresh shipment of pedals from Lone Wolf today! I spent some time in the shop playing/comparing the Boogieman, Harp Break, and Harp Attack. I decided to go with the Harp Attack. It has a more subtle distortion and breakup, but to my ears and taste -- more of a natural break-up. Less distorted than the Break, but more organic and musical. However, I can see why some might prefer the Break. And the Boogieman is a very nice way to get the Break with additional functionality for a good price. The Boogieman is a nice package, but I was seduced by the Attack.
Maybe there will be a pedal board in my future... (then I will appreciate Mooncat's advice on flexibility and sequencing pedals), but for now I'll be content gigging with my new Harp Attack plus my old Artec delay... into the PA.
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jun 10, 2017 2:13 PM
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