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rogonzab
909 posts
Mar 22, 2016
12:38 PM
http://www.lonewolfblues.com/store/harp-effects/mojo-pad


"Remember the Mojo Pad is intended for amplifiers with high gain preamps; these amplifiers typically have 12AX7 tubes at the input. The Mojo Pad also works with any solid state amp. With the Mojo Pad, there is no need for tube swapping."

Is this something like de SquelKiller? If it lowers the output from your mic, it is different that turning down my mic VC, or the level control of my Harpbreak?

If this helps whit taming thos crazy SS amp, I want/need one!!
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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.
MindTheGap
1316 posts
Mar 22, 2016
12:59 PM
Looks like a conventional T-Pad attenuator. Because the website says it's reversible and not powered. Whereas the squeal killer is a tube device i.e. powered, with mysterious workings.

Like all LW kit it's probably just right for the job. Does what it says on the tin. No different to turning down the VC, but more convenient I imagine.

Or the LW people will correct me.

Last Edited by MindTheGap on Mar 22, 2016 1:01 PM
NathanLWBC
85 posts
Mar 22, 2016
1:57 PM
There are no mysterious, mystical components, just a simple pad that we fine-tuned, as MindTheGap speculated. We've been field testing with a few guys for a while, and the results were very positive. As always, I'm poking around to answer questions.

Here is our first review from Brian Brazil (one of our field testers for this project):

"I played the Mojo Pad through my Fender Blues Junior today. It's like playing a completely different amp.
Usually the settings were: volume at 3 before getting feedback, bass control at 9, the mid-range at 3 and treble at 1 1/2. Now I set the volume at 8, the bass at 7 the mid-range around 4 or 5 and the treble at 4 or 5.

I used my Shure 545S mic with the volume control opened up all the way. The amp now has a lot more bass and low mids. It sounds much thicker and has more punch too. I get more settings from the tone controls now than I could before and no feedback until I turn the volume past 8. So for a 15 watt amp I'm getting way more usable volume before feedback and better tone. It works great."
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--Nathan Heck
Lead Technician, Lone Wolf Blues Co.
customerservice@lonewolfblues.com
TetonJohn
294 posts
Mar 22, 2016
2:02 PM
It would be good to hear why the pad works better than just "padding" by turning the volume down at the mike or at another pedal.
rogonzab
911 posts
Mar 22, 2016
2:42 PM
Q:
"With the Mojo Pad, there is no need for tube swapping"

I always thought that when you tube down an amp (AX7 to AY7 or so) you are changing the amps gain structure (how much amplified is the original signal). If you say that whit this unit I no longer have to buy low gain tubes, that would be revolutionary to us harp player. Or not?

I am not shure If I anderstand this right.


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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.
NathanLWBC
86 posts
Mar 22, 2016
4:23 PM
@TetonJohn...the same effect could be achieved by turning your mic down, but that limits the range of the control on the microphone. With the Mojo Pad, you still have the full use of your volume control. Also, remembering the "sweet spot" on a microphone is a bit more tedious. The Mojo Pad isn't reinventing the wheel, by any means, but we feel it to be useful for a lot of players.

@rogonzab...changing the preamp tube changes the amount of amplification in the preamp section of the amplifier. Most harp players change the tube for the purposes of taming feedback and reducing the harsh overdrive of the preamp. By lowering the input signal to something more similar to what the amplifier expects (like a guitar pickup), the amplifier can operate in the ranges it is designed to.
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--Nathan Heck
Lead Technician, Lone Wolf Blues Co.
customerservice@lonewolfblues.com
Popculture Chameleon
150 posts
Mar 22, 2016
4:30 PM
do you set the mojo pad before or after the pedal board. I only have three pedals in my line up a reverb flanger and looper pedal technically i will have one more pedal if I ever save up enough money to buy one of Greg's wireless pedal set ups. I did just get my harptrain 10 and love it by the way -THANK YOU LONE WOLF BLUES!!!
NathanLWBC
87 posts
Mar 22, 2016
4:39 PM
@Popculture...The Mojo Pad will always be the last device in your chain before the amplifier. With the Harp Train 10, you will have no need for the Mojo Pad, though. The gain structure is designed for the input level of a microphone.
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--Nathan Heck
Lead Technician, Lone Wolf Blues Co.
customerservice@lonewolfblues.com
timeistight
1957 posts
Mar 22, 2016
4:53 PM
"There are no mysterious, mystical components, just a simple pad that we fine-tuned"

That's where you guys go wrong. If you'd have crammed a few extra parts in there and hinted at secret, proprietary technologies you could have charged five times as much!
NathanLWBC
88 posts
Mar 22, 2016
4:59 PM
@timeistight...Hahaha, in that case, the price is now $245 and it features a fluxometercapacitor.

In all seriousness, though, other companies may do that, but I think we've built a reputation for doing the opposite. We'll never lie about what's going on.
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--Nathan Heck
Lead Technician, Lone Wolf Blues Co.
customerservice@lonewolfblues.com
rogonzab
912 posts
Mar 22, 2016
5:05 PM
Any demos soon? Hopefully whit a regular tube amp and a regular SS amp, and a DB meter system (a real one or a phone), that would be very helpfull.


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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.
NathanLWBC
89 posts
Mar 22, 2016
5:07 PM
We should have a video from Brian within the next few days. I'll try to remember to post a link in this thread when we have it.
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--Nathan Heck
Lead Technician, Lone Wolf Blues Co.
customerservice@lonewolfblues.com
Mojokane
858 posts
Mar 22, 2016
10:55 PM
Hi Nathan...
great idea.
It almost sounds like you reverse engineered the old "Feedblocker". Looks to be about the same size, and design, too. Good on ya. Fair price, too.
For those who remember. Rare find, if you can.
Harp players friend. Goood. Buy now!
A local player here in Honolulu has one. They work!
I have been looking for one for EV...VERRRRR!
Matter of fact. I just bought one. Thanks.

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Yes, there are blues in Hawaii.
doctom
27 posts
Mar 23, 2016
8:43 AM
So with a Bassman LTD with V2 and V3 changed to
12AU7's and no other mods this thing would NOT help get better volume before feedback, right?
arnenym
382 posts
Mar 23, 2016
1:01 PM
doctom. The LW Mojo Pad will probably give your bassman a longer life if you swap to 12AX7 in V2 and V3.
I've repaired 3 Ri and LTD bassmans with overheated plate resistors caused by using AU tubes in V2 and V3.

I know other people used it for years, but if your amp have poor quality on the resistors it would not hold for a long time.
NathanLWBC
90 posts
Mar 24, 2016
7:15 AM
@Mojokane...I've actually never heard of the Feedblocker, and we definitely didn't reverse engineer anything. This is an idea Randy has been kicking around for about three or four years.
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--Nathan Heck
Lead Technician, Lone Wolf Blues Co.
customerservice@lonewolfblues.com
rogonzab
915 posts
Mar 25, 2016
5:28 AM
Nathan,

In a "standar" confguration (3X12AX7 plus 2 power tubes), feedback is fast, you go from having a good time to looking guilty in less than a second. When you tube down the gain, one of the advantages is that when feedback ocurrs it is much slower, you can act before things get ear piercing.
Whit the Mojo Pad, you have the same effect in feedback speed?


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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.
JTThirty
302 posts
Mar 25, 2016
3:00 PM
I had the old Feedblok. It had two knobs for fiddling with feedback. I never cared for it much. I eventually took it apart and found it was simply two 250meg pots wired in series. I see that LW has sold out of the initial run on the Mojo. Guess we'll get lots of 'feedback' on the pad soon.
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shakeylee
522 posts
Mar 26, 2016
10:18 AM
the brian brazil video is up.




how would this mojo pad be for a non-VC application?
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rogonzab
920 posts
Mar 26, 2016
10:27 AM
Useless demo. (for me)

Who in his right mind would play whit an amp whit 3 12ax7 and put the volume on 8?!?!

The real test is whit a Db meter, how much louder you can get whit and whitout the pedal. And how fast the feedback is whit the pedal.
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Edit: Added the (for me) I dont want to be rude, sorry.

Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.

Last Edited by rogonzab on Mar 26, 2016 10:51 AM
timeistight
1958 posts
Mar 26, 2016
10:45 AM
You're over-thinking this product, rogonzab. It's not a magic box; it's a pad for reducing level before it hits an input, that's all.

It should make it easier to find the sweet spot of maximum volume before feedback, but it can't increase the level of that sweet spot.

I think this would a great tool to keep in your gig bag for those times when have to use a hot input on an amp. Right now, I use a Harp Tone+ in that situation, but it requires power. The Mojo Pad doesn't.
rogonzab
921 posts
Mar 26, 2016
10:50 AM
I do think it is a great product, I am wating a friend to make his mind in order to buy 2 and split shipping (for me, is almost the price of the pedal, so spliting it would be nice), I just curius about how it works in real life.


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