Harp Study
185 posts
Feb 22, 2016
6:52 PM
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I have been working on improving my bends while tongue blocking and was curious if you tongue blockers can slap on to a bend. I am having trouble accomplishing this, but assume that those who are better at bending with tongue block bending can do it. Just wanted to confirm.
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slaphappy
172 posts
Feb 22, 2016
7:13 PM
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you can. keep practicing both and it will come.
I slap 3 draw half-step pretty often. 2-draw whole step not that much. YMMV.
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Sarge
534 posts
Feb 22, 2016
7:23 PM
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You bet you can!!
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Killa_Hertz
611 posts
Feb 22, 2016
8:11 PM
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Never even crossed my mind. Good post HS. I kinda had TB bends on the back burner, but that's interesting.
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John M G
14 posts
Feb 23, 2016
2:56 AM
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I'd like to hear an example of what you're talking about.
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Harp Study
186 posts
Feb 23, 2016
4:15 AM
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@ Slaphappy and Sarge...
Figured it was possible, but just needed more work. Thanks for verifying.
@Killa.. Yeah I have been doing more and more tongue blocking and switching over for the bends all the time kind of seems tedious so I thought why not learn to bend better while TBing. Then it occurred to me that you can likely slap the bends as well with practice.
@John M G.... Unfortunately I can't do the technique so I can't record a sample. I don't know of a recording offhand that has it, but i am sure there are some out there. Of you are not familiar with tongue Slapping in general there are a bunch of YouTube videos on this technique.
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WinslowYerxa
1081 posts
Feb 23, 2016
10:20 AM
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Here's an audio example of slapping to a bend (played on a stock Marine Band in A).
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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Feb 23, 2016 10:22 AM
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MindTheGap
1208 posts
Feb 23, 2016
10:29 AM
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Thanks Winslow. What I found when I've tried it is that it dips quickly to pitch during the slap bit, and that's what I hear in your recording. Is that correct?
Last Edited by MindTheGap on Feb 23, 2016 10:30 AM
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WinslowYerxa
1082 posts
Feb 23, 2016
1:50 PM
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If you move your K-spot vertically into the sweet spot, any dipping will be minimal.
Here's a segment of the previous audio example, starting at about 0:29, slowed to 1/3 speed. I'm rapidly moving back and forth between a chord and a tongue blocked bend. Hear any pitch dipping, or am I going directly to the bent note?
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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Feb 23, 2016 1:52 PM
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The Iceman
2829 posts
Feb 23, 2016
2:19 PM
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If you become one of the believers in having the arc of the mid-back of the tongue control the pitch, it leaves the tip of the tongue free for slaps, pull offs, etc.
By keeping the tongue arc "anchored" in place, you will eliminate those pitch dips.
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John M G
15 posts
Feb 23, 2016
2:32 PM
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I wasn't one of the lucky ones when it comes to genetic tongue gymnastics!
Don't know if I've got enough years left in me to conquer these techniques that I'm only just learning about way too many years after I started playing.
I'd be happy to get the side swipe going along with some decent tongue block chugging. A bit more speed would be useful too! :(
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Harp Study
187 posts
Feb 23, 2016
4:17 PM
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Thanks for the example Winslow. Very helpful to hear the technique.
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MindTheGap
1211 posts
Feb 24, 2016
2:14 AM
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Yes, thank you, great to have an example. And thanks for the clarifications Winslow and Iceman. It's quite a wild sound isn't it. Nice.
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mlefree
595 posts
Feb 24, 2016
2:50 AM
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Try this.
Repeatedly hit your pre-bent tongue blocked target note and then lift your tongue. This will help set up your pre-bent slaps. Once you've got your serial pre-bent lifts like that, sneak in a slap. It will be easier to just reverse the process and do a pre-bent slapped note.
Good luck,
Michelle
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MindTheGap
1213 posts
Feb 24, 2016
3:01 AM
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That sounds like a good thing idea, thanks for the tip. I'll give it a go.
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ridge
652 posts
Feb 24, 2016
5:54 AM
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Never occurred to me to try this. To the woodshed!
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