harmonicanick
2328 posts
Dec 21, 2015
3:10 PM
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Yeah, like playing till 11.30.pm packing up, going for the money and them saying ooooh no you should be playing till 12!!
The difference between management at pub gigs can be extreme, some are really friendly, others are bas****s
I find independent owned places are fine, its the big chains to beware of..
What do you guys find???
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Frank101
134 posts
Dec 21, 2015
3:43 PM
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Get It In Writing.
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6SN7
620 posts
Dec 22, 2015
5:27 AM
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thats a drag. I always get the time straight when I book the gig. Then when I arrive, I check in with the manager and/or the bartender to reconfirm the times (I arrive 1 hour before any gig.) I'll then check in again with them after the first set to find out if they want us until the time they said. If there is a crowd, well, we just keep playing so they drink more and the bar makes money.
I have had your experience before but haven't since I engaged more with the manager/owner/booker and try to act more like a partner rather than a musician. Keeping the bar interests in mind in sdditon to making good music makes us look professional (at least I'd like to think so!)
Last Edited by 6SN7 on Dec 22, 2015 5:27 AM
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Jim Rumbaugh
1184 posts
Dec 22, 2015
7:18 AM
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Recent gig
The owner told us when to start and end.
The manager on duty that night said other times.
I agree with Frnaj. In writing is best, though sometimes a hassle.
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theharmonicaclub.com (of Huntington, WV)
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Larrystick
104 posts
Dec 24, 2015
6:30 AM
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That's happened to my band a few times too. Booker lays out a 9-12 gig. Get to the venue and manager says 8-1, and we're late. Painful. And at this bar there's always a few inebriated patrons that get into a scuffle after midnight. That's entertaining until the rumble spills into the band gear. Nothing fun about having a microphone smashed into your teeth when you're singing.
Of course we were fired after a couple gigs cause we were "too hard to work with."
Then again, we replaced that gig with a Sunday 4pm-7pm blues party every 5 weeks. Now that's a fun time. And I get home early for bed too.
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Barley Nectar
995 posts
Dec 24, 2015
7:30 AM
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What about pay. Do you get your money before or after the gig. I was at a gig once where I was just sitting in for a few songs. Thas was with an excellent band. At the end of the night the waitress shorted the band. The bar owner, who had been there all night, had vanished. Left the poor waitress to do his deed. The place was packed all nite. Pay before play would eliminate this...BN
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barbequebob
3090 posts
Dec 24, 2015
8:40 AM
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@Harmonicanick -- Welcome to the business side of the music business and you've just learned a very hard lesson that I learned many, many years ago and that music ain't just an art form, it is also a business as well and too many musicians NEVER take enough time to learn the business side of things, and so I'd suggest you attend as many music business seminars as well as do as much reading about it as you can and there are plenty of books available on the subject. Remember this little something that I learned many years ago that I'm gonna put in all caps because of its imprtance: IN GOD, I TRUST.......EVERYBODY ELSE IT'S ALL CASH MONEY!!!!!
If you'e not using a contract, what you need to do is get a letter of confirmation, and like a contract, it spells out all the details, and what you need to do is make at least 3 copies of them, just like a contract, one to keep on file at home, one for the club and one that you make damned sure to take with you to the gig.
Here's a link to a thread showing you the details of what such a letter should be like:
Letter of Confirmation
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
Last Edited by barbequebob on Dec 24, 2015 9:31 AM
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