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rogonzab
852 posts
Dec 19, 2015
2:28 PM
Any of you has tried this aproach?

I need a bigger amp to play whit my band (bigger than my 5w tube amp), and I was looking for something loud and SS (too much $ for a loud tube amp), and I found this amp in my price range:
http://www.amazon.com/Fender-Rumble-Bass-Combo-Amplifier/dp/B00HWINMR6

40w seems to be enough, and has a line out. I know that is a clean amp, is created that way, but I can use my HB to give me a little dirt.

What do you think?
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rogonzab
853 posts
Dec 21, 2015
8:20 AM
any one?
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marine1896
550 posts
Dec 21, 2015
8:28 AM
Sorry mate, I dunno nothing about these sort of amps. For years I've been the same... 410 bassman and fender pro junior that's all I need and like but there's some big brain amp dudes on here I'm sure will wade in.
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rogonzab
854 posts
Dec 21, 2015
9:39 AM
I owned a Pro Junior once, great amp, very loud.

Usualy I play trough the PA whit my HB, but in this band, we play 90% of the time in the same place, a small bar whit not enough monitor power (I cant hear me when I play into the bar PA), so I need a big amp.A Bassman would be great, but In my country those are crazy expensives.


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DannyRanch
55 posts
Dec 21, 2015
9:54 AM
I did that.

Laney RB3 65 w
SS amp

Green Bullet through Harp Break.

It sounded like my acoustic tone just dirtier a little bit, had to crank the gain and the pedal all the way up, but it had a lot of feedback and the tone coming from that amp was not that good.
Didn't really like it, probably due to the speakers, those were really big. Great for a bass tho, but the harp was not that good
NathanLWBC
74 posts
Dec 21, 2015
10:24 AM
It'll really come down to the speaker. A high wattage speaker will be very clean (which is usually desired for bass). Running the Harp Break into a 35+ watt guitar amp is also an option.
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HarpNinja
4163 posts
Dec 21, 2015
10:30 AM
I would think that a powered speaker or keyboard amp would work better. The HB generally works well straight to PA, which is what those two are. You would even get some eq.

I know, in theory, a bass amp should work, but I never had any luck with bass amps and harp. I use a powered monitor all the time for my amp, though.

One thing I noticed about the HB, is it is pretty feedback resistant. A second is that it will clip some gear if there isn't some sort of buffer after it. A delay or other pedal usually help.

Otherwise, I can get some digital clipping that isn't good - like transient spikes.

Another alternative is a Joyo American Sound to a powered speaker/keyboard amp. That actually emulates a full amp, including speaker. That means you typically don't need a buffer/compressor to avoid transients.
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HarpNinja
4164 posts
Dec 21, 2015
10:31 AM
Joyo also makes the clean glass, which is like the American sound with no speaker emulation. Don't get that for playing direct. The HB will work MUCH better.
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blueswannabe
586 posts
Dec 23, 2015
7:06 PM
The harp break is a great pedal to give a clean amp some dirt especially. There are players that use the HB with fender bassmans with great results. But I'm not familiar with the amp that you interested in but in theory you may be okay with that set-up.
Barley Nectar
997 posts
Dec 24, 2015
8:08 AM
OK, why a bass amp? Those speakers will not give you good tone in my opinion, too stiff plus the EQ will not be right. If you are thinking this way because the Fender Bassman is a fantastic harp/guitar amp, you are confused. The Fender Tweed Bassman is not a bass amp by today's standards, not even close. There are zillions of used SS guitar amps out there. Look for something that blues guitar guys like. Good blues guitar amps are usually good for harp also. If you are looking for a clean amp, talk to steel guitar players, their amps are CLEAN. Go buy your HB pedal first and use it to test different amps. Stay away from high gain stuff...Good luck...BN
hvyj
2904 posts
Dec 24, 2015
9:40 AM
Personally, I like playing harp through bass amps in general. I used to use a SWR Baby Baby Blue acoustic bass amp quie often. It has a tube pre amp and a solid state power stage with sophisticated semi parametric EQ for tone shaping. I've also played thru other bass amps every now and then, here and there, with favorable results. But I don't set up for distortion or breaup and don't use distortion boxes like the HB. I like the thick, dark essentially clean tone harp generates thru a bass amp. I think bass amps in general have larger coupling caps which work well for harp.

Last Edited by hvyj on Dec 25, 2015 12:02 PM
rogonzab
855 posts
Dec 27, 2015
2:41 PM
Update:

I end up whit a Fender Champion 40 (40w, 1x12)

The tone is OK, enough for what I need, and is nice to have reverb in the amp. I tested whit a DB metter app, and whit the HB I reach the same amount od DB that whit the amp alone.

Whit the HB in the clean chanel, the tone was a little better than whit the amp emulator on CH 2. I bet that whit a better speaker the amp would sound much nicer.

Overall, works for me.

Thxs all of you for your post, it really help me to make a decision.

P:D: The amp is great whit guitar.
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