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528hemi
466 posts
Oct 23, 2015
10:36 AM
So if you dont overblow the 1 or 4 blow for the flat third
Do you substitute 2 blow or just not play the flat 3rd?

I've read some just play the 2 blow but dont hang on it? My take was the flat 3rd was a very important note?



528hemi
JInx
1110 posts
Oct 23, 2015
10:48 AM
What does your ear tell you?
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timeistight
1882 posts
Oct 23, 2015
10:56 AM
I use first position to play the riff from "Who's Been Talking," but it's only three notes (fifth, dominant seventh, tonic). I switch to third to solo.

I definitely wouldn't play major thirds at all.
Pistolcat
886 posts
Oct 23, 2015
11:22 AM
Play in the top octave... Or play another position...
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Dr.Hoy
114 posts
Oct 23, 2015
11:34 AM
Why would you choose 1st position to play in a minor key?
528hemi
469 posts
Oct 23, 2015
12:16 PM
Dr. Hoy,

I mentioned minorblues as opposed to major blues ( not minor key) as I know the major third is acceptable with a major blues.

Jimmy reed plays first postion and for the most part stays on the high end for obvious reasons. So to clarify, Do the guys that play 1st postion riff who go to the low end just leave out the 3rd or should I say, are you very limited without the flat third in the first octave? Just trying to get some ideas what to do on the 1st octave...

I understand probably 90 percent of blues is played in 2nd and then 3rd position.
hvyj
2811 posts
Oct 23, 2015
2:52 PM
As I recall, a while ago someone (maybe TMF?) posted a vid of Rod Piazza playing minor in first position. Rod sounded great and simply avoided playing the third at all in the lower register. In a natural minor blues tune you don't want to be playing the major 3 or major 6.

@timeistight: try playing WBT in fifth position. The head is D3 D4 D3 D4 B5 and you can solo using the whole harp if you just avoid D5 and D9 (which are b2 and b9 respectively).

Last Edited by hvyj on Oct 23, 2015 5:51 PM
timeistight
1883 posts
Oct 23, 2015
4:58 PM
@hvyj: I've played it in fifth but I don't think it sounds quite right. The flat seven is a bent note in first (the way Wolf plays it); in fifth it's not bent. The bent seventh has more expression, IMHO.
harpdude61
2315 posts
Oct 26, 2015
8:58 AM
I try playing minor blues in first position. I guess I do okay on the high end. I do get the 1,4,5,6 overblows, but I'll be the first to admit that my technique and musicality needs work... in the first two octaves especially. I do keep practicing.


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2829 posts
Oct 26, 2015
9:20 AM


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