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HarpBreak to PA AND Amp for a gig?
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rogonzab
775 posts
Jul 29, 2015
11:54 AM
Anyone tried this?

This saturday I have a gig whit a full band (2 guitar player whit 50w SS amps, and a bass player whit a 300w 4x10 amp). The bar is small, but is so easy to play loud whit those amps...

So, I was thinking that maybe my Laney Cub 10 (10w tube amp) may not be powerfull enough, so maybe I can split my mic in two signals (pasive spiltter), one directo to the amp, and the other to my HB straight to the PA.

Something like this:


Mic -> delay -> splitter, one out to amp, the other to the HB and PA


What do you think?

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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.

Last Edited by rogonzab on Jul 29, 2015 11:56 AM
Littoral
1278 posts
Jul 29, 2015
2:09 PM
Mic the amp (?).
Barley Nectar
865 posts
Jul 29, 2015
2:26 PM
I see no reason why this would not work. A friend who plays acoustic guitar does this often. Give it a try, you can always fall back to Littoral suggestion...BN
rogonzab
776 posts
Jul 29, 2015
3:02 PM
Littoral, the stage is really small, the drumer and the bass player are against the back wall, and behind the two guitar players and the harp player. There is no room in the stage for the vocal mic, the band place it just at the edge of the stage (more like bellow the stage). So, not enough room to put another mic.


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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.

Last Edited by rogonzab on Jul 29, 2015 3:04 PM
Martin
844 posts
Jul 29, 2015
4:45 PM
Isn“t the point of the HB that you can direct it straight to the PA and get a good sound?
rogonzab
777 posts
Jul 29, 2015
5:11 PM
Martin, yes is perfect for that, but if you dont have a monitor (like in this case) you are going to have a hard time hearing yourself.

I use only my HB on gigs, never my amp, but I had played in this particular bar before, and whit the HB and no monitors, I always have problems hearing myself, and this gig is important to me (I am going to play whit my second favorite band in my country) so I want to play good, and I need to hear what I am playing.
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Sorry for any misspell, english is not my first language.

Last Edited by rogonzab on Jul 29, 2015 5:11 PM
Martin
845 posts
Jul 30, 2015
4:53 AM
OK, I get the drift. Playing while not hearing yourself is a type of "challenge" one can do without.
rainman
181 posts
Jul 30, 2015
6:17 AM
I have a Behringer B210D powered monitor that I've used in that situation and had good luck hearing myself. You run out of HB to monitor and than to PA. But it really has more to do with the band playing at a level that you can be heard. Best of luck!

Last Edited by rainman on Jul 30, 2015 6:18 AM
dougharps
984 posts
Jul 30, 2015
6:53 AM
A few years ago when I was going to play a similar too-loud gig I knew my '61 Gibson Explorer (12-14W) wasn't loud enough for the stage and the room if the others used their bigger amps. So I placed the Gibson on a tilt back stand in FRONT of me like a floor monitor, and mic'ed the back of the amp to the PA mains. I was using a directional mic to play harp (Shure 585SAV) and I faced the amp, making the directional mic less likely to pick up sound from the amp and less likely to cause feed back. I could really crank the amp because it wasn't behind me and wasn't picked up by the cardioid mic. My amp became my monitor, it was loud on stage, and the PA took care of the front of the house. I did not put the signal through the stage monitors.

There is always a risk of feedback if the stage volume is too loud. If your amp is behind you as well as harp being pumped through the stage monitors there will likely be feedback problems.
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Doug S.


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