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Destin
134 posts
Jul 26, 2015
1:05 AM
Hi guys,

I'm wondering what's the best way to get the most authentic organ sound with a harp. I'm currently looking at the line 6 roto machine.
SuperBee
2745 posts
Jul 26, 2015
2:01 AM
yeah i dunno what Will Wilde is using around 6 minute point in this video, but sounds quite good to me:
BronzeWailer
1742 posts
Jul 26, 2015
4:32 AM
Cool. Thanks for the WW video SuperBee. He is a very good player IMHO, has some good ideas, and has awesome guns to match. I have been trying to think more like a horn player at times, and not play too damn much! Just a few extremely simple licks here and there.
BronzeWailer's YouTube
marine1896
291 posts
Jul 26, 2015
5:31 AM
OT...and no real disrespect to WW but some of what he is saying is a pile of shit, It's obvious LW was influenced by other instruments and songs/tunes of the day and like a lot of us think also, LW may not have had the vocabulary and correct harmonica terminology (which is still evolving today) but LW knew what he was trying to do on harmonica and WHY he was doing!
As for the way "Blues folk" look...WW should take a look at himself... he looks as if he was hanging around with Canned Heat and Butterfield circa 1970's and kind of sounding like that with his rock/blues sound!!!

For the last 20 - 30 years there's been ton's of harp players messing with creativity and pedals on harmonica and blues harmonica...do I even need to mention them?!!

And as for the whole future/contemporary BLUES your either in the tradition or it's Blues influenced rock/funk/indie or someone like Tom Waits and let's be honest Tom Waits must have got some of rap/talk shtick from listening Babs Gonzalez!

WW is still a young cat and fair play to him taking time to make these vids for other harp players and raise his profile (do you really need anymore vids after Adam's and a few others, I mean if you can't learn blues harp and history from his vids then you should forget it) but he is talking about stuff that has been spoke about, written about and banged on about for years ad infinitum.

When I started playing proper in the mid to late 80's (pre net) within the first two years of playing, even with just reading magazine articles and liner notes and listening I learned that for blues harp and that idiom, I should also be learning and listening to sax, guitar and Hammond etc. that is basic common knowledge for "our thing" tee hee!

Anyhow, that's how I see it. It's hardly a revelation unless your a total newcomer to the instrument and blues!

There's a very good reason why the shadow of LW is still a very real thing today and that's because he really was a musical genius of the harmonica!

Just seen this this morning from Jason Ricci...

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"Those British boys want to play the blues real bad, and they do"

Last Edited by marine1896 on Jul 27, 2015 4:15 AM
rbeetsme
1646 posts
Jul 26, 2015
5:43 AM
Check out the Electro-Harmonix Hammond B pedal.
clyde
434 posts
Jul 26, 2015
7:20 AM
I don't disagree with anything this guy says
marine1896
292 posts
Jul 26, 2015
7:54 AM
@clyde ; Yeah but what he is saying it's so obvious these days unless he is just getting to the stage in his playing that we all reach where you start to think like that or maybe he is just jumping on the band wagon. But although he say's he is not, he is kind of dissing some palyers as well.
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"Those British boys want to play the blues real bad, and they do"
Destin
135 posts
Jul 26, 2015
11:16 AM
Boy did this threat get off topic quick, lol.

Thanks rbeetsme, but I already tried the electro harmonics and although it's a great pedal with lots of options, it just isn't what I'm looking for.
SuperBee
2746 posts
Jul 27, 2015
2:03 AM
Um yeah, I didn't mean for that to happen...just personally thought that roto effect seemed quite good and figured it would be fairly easy to discover what it was if you liked it...but I coulda done the research and just posted the results...note to self..
Popculture Chameleon
88 posts
Jul 27, 2015
6:03 PM
I have seen you tube demos of the Electro Harmonics pitch fork pedal with harmonica and they seem to be very harmonica friendly
Martin
843 posts
Jul 28, 2015
5:26 AM
@Destin: There´s a Line 6 roto for sale in my neck of the woods, and I´d be really interested if you give some comments on the effect, if/when you buy one.

Yesterday I spent half an hour with a Behringer Leslie effect (an inexepensive thing), but it didn´t do anything interesting at all for me.
rbeetsme
1647 posts
Jul 28, 2015
6:00 AM
I use a Leslie effects pedal with the EH organ pedal. Cathedral or Booker T!
FatJesus
72 posts
Jul 28, 2015
9:29 AM
Another option would be to do the Digitech thing with Richard Hunter's patches--but then that also influences your mic and amp choice.

But if you already have more of a vocal mic (a stick mic) and not a hot bullet... and if you'd be playing straight into the PA (or a keyboard/vocal amp)... you can get a lot of effects, and a number of organ sounds.

Yeah, it's simulated/modeled--but if you can play alright (and change the way you play a little to hold blow chords), it can be really cool.

--JC
LittleWalker
7 posts
Jul 28, 2015
5:20 PM
The E.H. B9 and C9 pedals have some cool sounds in them but the tracking isn't superb. Same with the Pitchfork.

I'm much happier with the Earthquaker Devices Organizer; takes some time to dial in but it sounds killer and tracks really well.

I've also had some success with an old Boss PH-2 Super Phaser (MIJ) - crank the depth and rate on Mode 2 and you get this cool Phase-y Rotary effect.
Diggsblues
1874 posts
Jul 28, 2015
7:36 PM
I like Will I think he makes good points for young harmonica players. Oh yeah I heard Butter and Canned Heat Live back in the day.
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SuperBee
2762 posts
Aug 10, 2015
2:17 PM
Follow up: Will said that's a Boss Rt20 he is using
Udderkuz03
76 posts
Aug 11, 2015
11:14 AM
I have already posted several times-try an electro-harmonics pitchfork..just try it out at a music store with a multieffects pedal that has a lot of different tremolos, rotary etc. Use with an expensive tube amp..I have a pitchfork ($130)and multieffects..Tweak and be amazed...
Martin
853 posts
Aug 12, 2015
5:06 AM
"I have already posted several times-try an electro-harmonics pitchfork."

That I did, an EHX, but couldn´t get anywhere with it. Could just about find one (1) passable, slightly organ- like sound.
Big disappointment.
hvyj
2727 posts
Aug 12, 2015
6:03 AM
Strymon Lex is excellent, so is Hammond Leslie G Pedal.
Combine with Nano POG for depth.


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