Michael Rubin
1013 posts
Jan 26, 2015
10:18 AM
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Harmlessonica
36 posts
Jan 26, 2015
1:21 PM
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Loving this series Michael.
Couldn't stop thinking about your beard though (or lack thereof). Did it leave to pursue a solo career? :)
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slaphappy
65 posts
Jan 26, 2015
2:53 PM
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Interesting.
Barrett teaches the pull as something different (slight suction and plucking off of the tongue preceding the following slapped note).
I think he calls what you are doing a lift.
Not that Mr Barrett is be-all-end-all authority, (although as a private student of his, I kind of think that is pretty much the case but that's my own bias) I'm just pointing out a different definition..
Interested in your take on it Michael. Great stuff BTW. I love slaps and pulls (and especially pull-slaps)
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4' 4+ 3' 2~~~
-Mike Ziemba
Harmonica is Life!
Last Edited by slaphappy on Jan 26, 2015 2:54 PM
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Michael Rubin
1014 posts
Jan 26, 2015
3:47 PM
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Slaphappy,
Is this suction and plucking off of the tongue off the harp or off the roof of the mouth. I very busy this week, but if we can find time for 5 minutes of skype, I'd appreciate it.
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slaphappy
66 posts
Jan 26, 2015
4:30 PM
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plucking the tongue off the harp. it's a quick percussive precursor to the next note the way Dave teaches it.
BTW, I liked your comments about articulation with tongue on the harp, I think it kind of gets overlooked (as you were saying in your video).
would love to have a chance to skype w/ you, I sent you an email.
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4' 4+ 3' 2~~~
-Mike Ziemba
Harmonica is Life!
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Frank101
64 posts
Jan 26, 2015
7:38 PM
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I was looking at tongue blocking instructional videos on youtube just now, and I came across one where I was told it was NOT POSSIBLE to play classic Chicago style blues harp by puckering alone.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ................ I wonder .............
Last Edited by Frank101 on Jan 26, 2015 7:38 PM
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dougharps
828 posts
Jan 27, 2015
8:26 AM
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Thanks for the practice suggestions, Michael. Good video!
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WinslowYerxa
763 posts
Jan 27, 2015
9:04 AM
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I agree with Dave that the pull is a special technique that differs from a lift, and teach it that way.
A simple lift is just that - lifting your tongue off the harp.
When you do a pull, before removing your tongue fro the harp, you first cover ALL the holes, so that your inhaled breath is stopped. However, you continue trying to inhale, then pull your tongue off the holes so that the resulting chord pops, with a little percussive attack.
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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Jan 27, 2015 9:14 AM
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Michael Rubin
1015 posts
Jan 27, 2015
9:32 AM
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In attempting to follow your uinstruction Winslow, Iblocked 3 holes and played 4 draw. Then I attempted to widen my tongue but found that difficult. I then narrowed my mouth opening and went from a four hole spread with holes 1, 2 and 3 blocked while playing four, to a three hole spread with all 3 holes blocked. I did hear more of a pop as I pulled.
I am assuming I am doing this incorrectly and that I should widen my tongue, but it is not happening right away. Thoughts?
Last Edited by Michael Rubin on Jan 27, 2015 9:32 AM
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WinslowYerxa
766 posts
Jan 27, 2015
1:27 PM
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Hi, Michael. Try following the video example I gave in the other pull-off thread. This uses a two-hole spread and is easier to do to get started if you're not used to making a four-hole spread with your tongue.
Notice that in the video (and in the audio) I have only Holes 1 and 2 in my mouth, as this (along with Holes 1, 2, and 3 together) is the typical usage for pull-offs. I suggest you try it first as shown so that you don't have difficulty spreading your tongue wider than you're used to.
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Harmonica For Dummies, Second Edition with tons of new stuff
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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Jan 27, 2015 1:31 PM
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slaphappy
67 posts
Jan 27, 2015
2:31 PM
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I think of it as "blobbing" the tongue rather than widening.. The Filisko TB trainer can really help for this stuff.
Pulls are so critical for the Chicago blues harp sound IMO. It's worth the time and effort to get them sounding right.. For me I had to go back and re-evaluate my approach to them a few times. I think I finally have the hang of it pretty much! Some of it just comes with time though I think.
Another thing is they are often played softly, to the point where you would question whether to notate them or not in a transcription. HOwever if you take them out, the phrase doesn't have nearly the impact. Little Walter was masterful with this..
Anyway I'm gonna shut up now. I may not be an expert at blues harp but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
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4' 4+ 3' 2~~~
-Mike Ziemba
Harmonica is Life!
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