didjcripey
793 posts
Aug 12, 2014
1:26 AM
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So my research suggests that the Lone Wolf harp shield works primarily by turning off the mic when you're not playing; it seems that its essentially a noise gate.
I play with a loud band and am always on the edge of feedback. Would a harp shield help with feedback any better than a guitar noise gate, at a fraction of the cost?
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Lucky Lester
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SuperBee
2156 posts
Aug 12, 2014
5:21 AM
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My experience with harp shield and very loud band was that the noise gate was more trouble than help.
Problem was that the sound stage bleed into my mic would trigger the gate open unless I turned the sensitivity up (down? I mean I had to make the gate require a louder trigger to open). This then meant I had to play really loud to make it open. I gave up and went back to my volume control.
Some expressed surprise that the band was that loud, but consider how loud the stage is and whether you can hear your acoustic sound, because it's your acoustic sound which has to trigger the gate.
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SuperBee
2157 posts
Aug 12, 2014
5:26 AM
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I should add that others have found it really useful. I think if you have a small amp struggling to keep up where the stage sound is not really all that loud, eg, you can hear your acoustic sound on stage but you need to bump it up to REALLY hear it...it's probably a goer, but not with a small stage and a drummer with 24 inch kick and metal band training where you can't hear a dang thing even with your finger in your ear...
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Martic
89 posts
Aug 12, 2014
1:24 PM
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For feedback control and noise reducing I once used a MXR Dynacomp a friend borrowed me. It was just like if somebody designed "sound improver" pedal with a useful master volume control. My harp sounded clearer, without any ground noise and free of feedback.
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didjcripey
794 posts
Aug 12, 2014
2:21 PM
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Thanks for your responses. I suspected as much super bee. The stage volume would be as least as loud as my acoustic volume, so I expect it would open the gate (our bass player is the worst offender; you feel every beat).
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Lucky Lester
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boris_plotnikov
993 posts
Aug 12, 2014
10:40 PM
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I rare play such loud bands. I usually mix DI PA sound with amp sound (harp attack forms my tone). I use both noise gate (Rocktron Hush, blue one) and on-off switch on my XLR. When I don't play I always turn off my mic, when I play my noise gate helps to avoid feedback in short rests between phrases. Also I use supercardioid mic (Electrovoice N/D 967) with very strong output. Actually I never had a problem with feedback last years using 15w clone of Fender Pro Jr.
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Slimharp
372 posts
Aug 15, 2014
9:49 AM
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didjcripey I did not care for the Harp Shield. I tried adjusting mine many times and for me and my rig ( at the time Blues DeVille / JT 30 w/ CM ) the Shield caused a jerk or lerch when I would begin to play. Much like popping a clutch in a car with a manual transmission. I think Lone Wolf makes a lot of good products but for me this was not one of them. Randy and Missy are really cool people. I will sell you mine for $30.00 plus shipping. It is brand new. If you are serious about getting loud with out feedback check out the Squeel Killer or the Kinder AFB. Squeel killer is half the price of the Kinder. Both are great devices, just have different characteristics.
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didjcripey
795 posts
Aug 15, 2014
4:11 PM
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Thanks again for your responses, especially slim harp. I am pretty sure that the harp shield wouldn't work for me, and would probably end up just another piece of potentially useful gear which ends up in a box at home.The only pedal that I have tried that hasn't significantly reduced volume before feedback is delay. The problem is the band I play with; the bass player who is also the front man is ridiculously loud. The volumes we play at would definitely trigger the noise gate. I might look in to the squeal killer though.
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Lucky Lester
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