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1847 classic/Suzuki Olive
1847 classic/Suzuki Olive
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jiceblues
271 posts
Feb 01, 2014
4:50 AM
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To those who tried both brands :
what are the differences , if someone likes the 1847 , can he like the Olive ? .I guess different tunings produce differents sound and tone ?
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1847
1486 posts
Feb 01, 2014
7:59 AM
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I can remember at one time
Being a stickler for tuning
If you did not play a marine band
I did not consider you to be a serious player. It was based on ignorance.
At one time the marine band was “just intonated. However that was way before I was serious about playing.
Most of the marine bands I had were already compromised tuned,
And I did not know any better.
But that was what all the top touring pros used, and for awhile that’s all you could get.
My main gig harps are seydel silver plus, it is basically a session steel with 1847 cover plates. Personally
I could care less if a cover plate has vents, or is opened up in the back
No difference at all, I think that is
The most ridicules discussion I see on this forum, but that is just me.
I grew up on a marine band, a marine band has vents, so I want a harmonica with vents, but the 1847 does not have them. lol an 1847 classic is a slightly larger harmonica along the lines of a ms blues harp, or pro or big river harmonica, which I played for a spell.
However the cover plates are a bit taller, it is simply a matter of tilting the harp slightly, and playing off the top coverplate, if you tongue block
There is nothing like it, awesome!
But it has a larger feel to it, if you are on stage with your eyes closed, it’s not something you would even notice.
But the session steel has a recessed reed plate so it has a slightly smaller feel to it, now you have the advantage of what I consider not a cover plate but a mouth piece! And a smaller footprint so to speak.
I have been playing seydel for a very long time, but there was a point in time you could not get them.
So I bought 7 or 8 manji’s
What I liked about them they are the same size as a marine band, they appear all to be long slot reed plates
They last a very long time.
The set that I got was out of tune
Not sure what happened there
So I tuned them equal tempered.
What I learned is, much like the cover plates, it did not make that much of a difference! I learned more about my playing then anything else,
I learned I do not play very many chords. I play a lot of single notes and a boatload of octaves. So the tuning to me is not too critical… as long as it is properly tuned, one way or the other. I really like the composite comb on a manji
Although It is a little hard on the edges of the holes, frank has an excellent video
On you tube where he uses a nail file
To smooth the edges, it makes it feel like a Harrison harmonica, very nice job there frank.
If you are planning on trying a seydel
I would suggest a session steel with the 1847 coverplates.
Those are my thoughts, you’re mileage may vary.
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i get a lot of request when i play my harmonica
"but i play it anyway"
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jiceblues
272 posts
Feb 01, 2014
8:11 AM
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thank's 1847 , but i have a 1847 classic and just wanted to know how people feel about the Olive , beside the 1847 .
I don't like MB's ,i find them too small and rough on the lips .
If the Olive is the same size than the MB , i won't buy it .
I like the 1847 classic , but i wonder if the Olive is "smoother" .
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Cotton
9 posts
Feb 02, 2014
11:54 AM
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I like my Olive very much. It is the same length as a MB deluxe. When placed next to a MB the holes line up exactly. It has a full cover plate with nice round edges. No sharp edges anywhere. Comfortable to hold. Composite comb feels more solid than plastic. To me a Seydel feel "fat" in my lips. You might think the Olive feels "skinny"
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jiceblues
275 posts
Feb 02, 2014
2:08 PM
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Thank's , Cotton .
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