HarpNinja
3595 posts
Nov 16, 2013
8:59 PM
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I started teaching myself Windows Movie Maker tonight. Pretty big deal for me, lol.
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timeistight
1420 posts
Nov 17, 2013
2:11 AM
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Whats the black box to the left of the Flat Cat?
The delay seems to be being washed out by the other pedals. Have you tried it at the other end of the chain?
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Rarko
68 posts
Nov 17, 2013
3:00 AM
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Very nice video, thank you Mike!
How those pedals work with your VHT 6 (Harp Break with VHT?)
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Rick Davis
2692 posts
Nov 17, 2013
5:49 AM
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Mike, nice!
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HarpNinja
3596 posts
Nov 17, 2013
6:56 AM
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Thanks! The black box is a DI box. If i wanted more delay, I would just turn up the blend.
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Last Edited by HarpNinja on Nov 17, 2013 6:57 AM
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arnenym
233 posts
Nov 17, 2013
8:23 AM
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Very good and informative video.
Very good playing, too.
It sound very good in to a recorder.
But do it work as good in to a PA?
No problems with feedback?
Last Edited by arnenym on Nov 17, 2013 8:24 AM
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MindTheGap
53 posts
Nov 17, 2013
8:50 AM
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I love your demos, they are really interesting for showing the sounds you can get from different equipment. Do you have one with other mics through this setup?
More please!!
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Moon Cat
297 posts
Nov 17, 2013
8:50 AM
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AWESOME VIDEO MIKE!!! Great playing too Sir! Very effective Demo!
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timeistight
1421 posts
Nov 17, 2013
9:37 AM
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"If i wanted more delay, I would just turn up the blend."
Sure. It's just that delay usually goes at the end of the chain, after compression and distortion. I was wondering why you run it the other way around.
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Kingley
3282 posts
Nov 17, 2013
9:47 AM
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Nice job on the video Mike.
timeistight - If the Harp Break acts anything like the Harp Attack then it sounds much better with delay before it than after it.
This video reminds me that I really must get around to making myself a little pedal board for my Harp Attack, Delay and a DI box.
Last Edited by Kingley on Nov 17, 2013 9:48 AM
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HarpNinja
3597 posts
Nov 17, 2013
10:40 AM
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The FC was actually designed to act like a studio compressor at the end of a chain. I had the delay first for no real reason other then that was were I had it when noodling.
Glad it helps people. Thanks so much!
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HarpNinja
3599 posts
Nov 18, 2013
7:04 AM
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I will do a similar vid with a bullet mic instead of the SM57. IMO, the HB isn't useable straight to the PA without the FC if using a bullet.
At least with my rig, there are just too many transients when going for a crunchy tone, some of which create a weird clipping. If I use the FC, those go away and the rig sounds much better.
IMO, the HB is a great overdrive/distortion pedal...like you'd use infront of an amp for guitar. By adding the FC, you get some compression similar to what an actual speaker cab would offer, and it is easier to use direct.
The HB has the bass eq, and I haven't felt the need to add anymore eq. I have a Harp Tone+, but the HB/FC sound great on their own.
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MindTheGap
54 posts
Nov 18, 2013
7:30 AM
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Excellent! I love your playing, but would you mind adding a few slower passages in the mix, because it's much better for picking out the detail of what's going on? I thought the simpler boogie riff you put in was particularly good to show no effects vs just HB vs HB+FC.
Just to say that I bought my HB largely based on your various demos, and got into the SM57 also. So these demos are really helpful.
Last Edited by MindTheGap on Nov 18, 2013 7:47 AM
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HarpNinja
3600 posts
Nov 18, 2013
7:50 AM
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Awesome to hear, thanks!
I'll do a slower one. I have slower stuff on YT, but not with the HB. I picked a fast boogie because, 1.) that isn't something I am very good at, 2.) it was something most blues players would appreciate, and 2.) it lent itself to playing fast.
The think I like most about the FC is the separation of notes that would otherwise be blurred by distortion and fast playing.
I'll do a slow blues next. Fading out the backing track was something I thought of after the fact. I should have played some high fast stuff with the track still on.
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HarpNinja
3601 posts
Nov 18, 2013
7:50 AM
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I also really really want to try the Harp Attack comapred to the HB.
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MindTheGap
56 posts
Nov 18, 2013
8:12 AM
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Yes, I definitely got your message about the FC separating the fast notes. There's a lot more information we can glean from your vids though e.g. the kind of break-up you are getting from particular dial settings, how the rig responds to articulations, slaps etc.
When I was researching pedals, the HB vs HA question was being asked over and over, so a comparison would be well received I think. One objective question was which one gives the most distortion? I emailed Randy and he told me that the HB can produce more distortion than the HA.
Now, if you could A/B/C the HB, HA and Art Tube Preamp, I think that would be the jackpot!
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jbear
44 posts
Nov 19, 2013
4:39 AM
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I second the HB vs HA video. I'm in the market for one or the other and I can't decide!
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Littoral
1008 posts
Nov 19, 2013
11:39 AM
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If you could address Kingleys point about the delay being first or last it would help me a lot, somehow I hadn't heard anything about running the delay first, always last. You said you start the FC last because of its use as a compressor so the delay went in front. Makes sense but most rigs have the delay last.
What I want to know is how the HB responds to the delay being in front vs after. I have 3 LW's, delay, HB and Octave. I find that I don't have much use (success) with the HB, just the Octave-Delay (PA application only, amps are a way different story). I seem to recall you, Mike, not "liking" the Octave much. I love the thing.
Last Edited by Littoral on Nov 19, 2013 11:41 AM
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HarpNinja
3605 posts
Nov 19, 2013
12:03 PM
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In a studio, you'd likely have the gain first and then the time effect and then the compressor.
I treated that arrangement more like a regular live rig. In a traditional live rig, the mic would hit the delay and then the tube amp (HB). The signal from the amp would then hit the speakers (FC) and then go FOH.
The V2 Delay can take a huge signal without clipping. However, to play it safe, I put it first so that I can crank the HB or FC level to get a strong signal to the PA. I don't have to worry about overdriving/clipping the delay at all.
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HarpNinja
3606 posts
Nov 19, 2013
12:06 PM
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I should also share that the HB works fine without the FC. For me, it cleans up the fast runs and requires less EQ from a board to get a great sound without feedback.
If I just use the HB, I can use the EQ on a PA to further tune to the room. That would be the norm if sitting in or something. However, I use a powered monitor as my "amp". If I were to gig tonight, I'd take a line out to the PA from the monitor. That means, I only control my stage sound from my pedal board. I don't use the PA mixer. The FC let's me control my monitored tone better.
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HarpNinja
3607 posts
Nov 19, 2013
12:11 PM
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I should add that my rock rig is different. I use a Tech 21 Blonde for the base tone. It is last in the chain and I find the emulated speaker compression is enough so that I don't need the FC. I do use a HB on that board as an overdrive pedal, though.
I'd do a video, but people would just get confused by all the pedals, lol. I put the time effects just before the Tech 21. In that way, again, I can better control the output volume without clipping anything.
Remember that guitar effects weren't designed with harmonica signals in mind. If I use a ton of output from the Tech 21, I can easily clip a digital pedal.
***I am a couple months away from selling off most that board and my FOH PA gear...just haven't been using it. :(
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Last Edited by HarpNinja on Nov 19, 2013 12:32 PM
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HarpNinja
3612 posts
Nov 21, 2013
7:40 AM
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I'll have a Harp Attack in a couple of weeks and will shoot a video before the holidays.
I'll just use those two pedals and alternate between a backing track on and muted. I'll try to use multiple mics too (I really only have a SM58, SM57, and a bullet with a 520D element for harmonica).
Like this last one, I'll try to gear it towards blues stuff, so you'll have to hear some sloppy tongue blocking again, lol!
I might have time tonight to do a vid with a bullet mic...otherwise I'll wait for the HA.
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MindTheGap
59 posts
Nov 21, 2013
8:04 AM
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Ace! Early bullet mic demo - yes please!
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