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Stupid Question. 3rd Position.
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tookatooka
3309 posts
May 21, 2013
1:58 PM
3rd position. What chords are available when playing in 3rd position please?
Frank
2420 posts
May 21, 2013
2:26 PM
timeistight
1221 posts
May 21, 2013
2:47 PM
You get I min, IV maj, VI dim and VIIb maj triads. The I, IV and VI chords can be extended to I min 6, IV 9 and VI min 7 b5 (aka VI half diminished 7) respectively.

On a G harp, for example, you get the following chords: A min, D maj, F# dim, G maj, A min 6, D9 and F# min 7 b5.
tookatooka
3310 posts
May 21, 2013
2:48 PM
Thanks @Frank and @time. I should have known where all this info is by now.

Last Edited by tookatooka on May 21, 2013 2:50 PM
SuperBee
1126 posts
May 21, 2013
7:04 PM
Dang nab bit.
Lost that post! Start again:
I enjoyed Jason's video, but it didn't really have much to say about chords. Just that partial chord using draw 4/5...
Timeistight has answered the question I suppose but somehow I'm still left wondering.
The Aminor is draw 456 or 8910, Dmaj in draw 123 or 234, F#dim would be draw 345 or 789, G maj is any 3 consecutive blow chambers, Amin6 is the same notes as F#m7b5, so draw 3456, 4567, 5678, 6789, or 78910, and D9 is a dominant 9th chord so draw 23456.
Someone wanna mark my work?
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tookatooka
3311 posts
May 22, 2013
2:31 AM
Thanks #SuperBee.
SuperBee
1128 posts
May 22, 2013
3:07 AM
Surely IV7 also...
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timeistight
1222 posts
May 22, 2013
8:23 AM
IV9 implies IV7, SuperBee.

D7 is spelled D, F#, A, C
D9 is spelled D, F#, A, C, E
colman
248 posts
May 22, 2013
9:34 AM
I bet Walter Horton blew the sh!T in 3rd pos and didn`t care what available chords were there, I think these masters were into the language rather than the science, i say that from rappin with James Cotton 40 yrs. ago ...
mr_so&so
674 posts
May 22, 2013
11:04 AM
Tookatooka, that is an open-ended question. What do you have in mind? The position charts (linked to in my profile) will help you work out what chords are playable as chords, or as partial chords (splits and double stops), but you need to know something about chord theory to make use of that. You can also arpeggiate any chord you like, of course.

Colman's comment is valid too. If you are just exploring, you can play various splits and chords and use the ones that sound good in the music you are making. If you want to, then you can determine what they are.

Hope this helps. And by the way, there are no stupid questions. Clear questions are better questions though;)
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mr_so&so

Last Edited by mr_so&so on May 22, 2013 11:06 AM
timeistight
1223 posts
May 22, 2013
11:22 AM
"I bet Walter Horton blew the sh!T in 3rd pos and didn`t care what available chords were there, I think these masters were into the language rather than the science, i say that from rappin with James Cotton 40 yrs. ago ..."

I'm sure you're right. I bet Walter Horton didn't care about the specs of his amps or what kind of reverb Chess put on his harp either. So what? Does that mean we can't care about those things?
tookatooka
3313 posts
May 22, 2013
12:34 PM
#mr_so&so, #time. I've come to the conclusion that I'll never grasp musical theory so I'm learning to play by ear and instinct. I'm not stupid but just hate the idea of study. Especially when a lot will probably be of no use to me. The little tidbits I get here and there help a lot though and over time I'll get to a place where I'm content with what I'm doing. It's slowly coming together. Thanks a lot.
SuperBee
1132 posts
May 22, 2013
2:48 PM
Oh, ok Tight, I thought as you had distinguished Amin6 as well as F#min7b5, which are both spelled FACE, maybe it was an exercise like that but ok, fair point, you can't have the 9 without the 7. I guess IV 9 implies IVmaj too, but maybe that's a little pedantic and not very helpful.
Edited to correct my grammar :0)
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Last Edited by SuperBee on May 22, 2013 2:49 PM


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