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Rick Davis
1702 posts
May 01, 2013
1:40 PM


This is the 15-watt Mission Delta Sonic blues harp amp. The first clip is the amp by itself, and the second clip is the amp plus a line out to a PA system: Mackie 808M and Mackie speakers - typical bar band PA system.

I'm using a touch of delay (MXR Carbon Copy) for slap back. There are no effects in the PA channel. The amp is EQ'd in the PA channel with HIGHs and MIDs rolled off and the LOWs boosted.

I played the amp at a gig with a loud blues band last Saturday, and the line out is the big problem solver. Once you get it dialed in it sounds huge. I even had a bit in the monitors.

The amp has a 12AY7 in the preamp socket, and two JJ Tesla 6V6 power tubes. Bruce at Mission Amps made a couple tweaks to the tone stack since the last time you heard the amp. This is the final configuration.

I'd like to hear what you think!

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rogonzab
274 posts
May 01, 2013
1:47 PM
Whit the PA it sounds "muffed" but that is probably because the volume is to loud for the camera mic (after all is a 15w amp and a PA), but I will increase the mids a litle in the PA and see how that works.

I bet that in a bar that Line out would sound great.
Rick Davis
1704 posts
May 01, 2013
2:00 PM
No, not muffled at all in the room. Just a whole lot louder. The line out has the same tone and crunch as the amp.

When you are trying to fill a big room with sound you need more bass, so that is why I boosted the lows in the PA channel. PA's can be bright, so I rolled off the mids and highs in the channel. That is how I suggest you begin when dialing the amp in for the room. It sounded great this way in the club last weekend.

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rogonzab
275 posts
May 01, 2013
2:19 PM
I do think that that Line out and PA combo would work fine in the real life. My last post was about the sound of the video.
KingBiscuit
233 posts
May 01, 2013
2:41 PM
I think it sounds great either way.
Littoral
855 posts
May 01, 2013
2:57 PM
I like it, plenty. The line out did just what it is supposed to. The amp has a great sound although, and I don't mean to be a jerk about this, it also sounds like it would shine with some violent vectored tongue blocks.
Rick Davis
1705 posts
May 01, 2013
3:02 PM
LOL! Lit, I agree 100%. I'll see if I can get Nic Clark on the job this Sunday.

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bigd
459 posts
May 01, 2013
8:37 PM
These kind of videos (especially when one is with Rick and one is with Nick on similar amp settings) are a real service to harp players IMO....
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S-harp
101 posts
May 02, 2013
1:08 AM
Does your line out mute the amp or let it play on stage simultaneously?
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MN
253 posts
May 02, 2013
8:30 AM
I often line out to the PA from my Marble Max and it works great. While I MAY lose something vs. miking the amp, it seems more fool-proof for the sound guy; less chance for error.

Regarding the Mission Delta Sonic: I think if I were to move back to the States, I'd be all over this amp. It looks just about perfect for 90+ percent of us semi-pro type players; meaning guys who do work in bars and such. There are times when a Bassman RI is just too loud. I'd rather have a mid-sized amp like this and be able to line out for more power. $899 is a damn reasonable price for a harp-specific boutique amp like this, IMO.
Rick Davis
1712 posts
May 02, 2013
8:40 AM
S-harp, no, the amp is not muted when the line out is connected. The line out comes off the speaker tap, and running a tube amp without a speaker load is a really bad idea. It will damage the circuit.

You can hear the amp playing normally when the line out is used. Depending on the venue, you don't usually need much in the PA.


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Last Edited by Rick Davis on May 02, 2013 8:45 AM
blueswannabe
197 posts
May 04, 2013
12:21 PM
Rick, amp sounds great. I think it sounds a little better than before.
Also, I got my mission 32-20 last week and am very happy with it.
Rick Davis
1744 posts
May 04, 2013
2:55 PM
blueswannabe, I agree the Delta Sonic amp has improved. It is a brand new design and it is a process to get it sorted. I think it is "right" now.

Congrats on the getting your 32-20! It's the most versatile harp amp around, with great tone and lots of punch.

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blueswannabe
198 posts
May 04, 2013
7:50 PM
Thanks. I put a 5751 tube in the first preamp and a 12ay7 in the second position. The speakers are starting to break in. Sounds great. I put it in the cathode bias mode. The amp is very well built. High quality.
Rick Davis
1747 posts
May 04, 2013
9:24 PM
Cathode bias mode has a nice vintage sound on that amp. When I am gigging with the 32-20 I use the fixed bias mode which has more punch, a very strong tone.

I'm glad you like the amp. I hope it inspires you to play a lot and take your playing to the next level.

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Kingley
2601 posts
May 05, 2013
1:18 AM
The Mission Delta Sonic sounds nice. If I had the cash and was looking for an amp, it would certainly be a contender.
Rick Davis
1762 posts
May 06, 2013
7:55 AM
Hey, you guys asked for "violent vectored tongue blocks" and you got it, because I am your humble blues harp amps servant:



BBQ Bob, you may know Gregg MacKenzie. He moved to Denver from Boston several months ago. He used to run a blues jam in Weymouth Mass. Great guy, very good player.


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Littoral
858 posts
May 06, 2013
8:23 AM
"...humble blues harp amps servant".
Most appreciated. I will do my part with making a Peavey video really soon. I did gig with it this weekend and was very pleased. I chained it with my Concert and had more than enough headroom needed to compete with the wall of sound.
Rick Davis
1763 posts
May 06, 2013
9:38 AM
Littoral, I look forward to seeing that!

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