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dukeofwail
101 posts
Mar 17, 2013
3:49 AM
"get wild and crazy."

Sometimes in the studio, Producer or Artist will ask for another take using these descriptions.

I know that I'm a melodic, single-note player because I've spent years emulating McCoy and Oskar. Most compliments come from this style.

But what kind of sounds are they asking for, when they use these terms?
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didjcripey
489 posts
Mar 17, 2013
4:05 AM
Make it wail, Duke.
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kudzurunner
3977 posts
Mar 17, 2013
4:37 AM
Here's Big Jay McNeely, the man who invented the term "blow your brains out," playing a song called "Blow Your Brains Out," and being encouraged to do that by a drummmer/"producer". Might be a step in the right direction:

The Iceman
799 posts
Mar 17, 2013
4:45 AM
Citing your influences, it sounds as if you play a more controlled single note style from the head.

The producer may be asking for more heart playing without so much thought process. He also may be looking for a little more grit or slop.

Perhaps he means louder/faster..

Why not approach it from a standpoint of "I just had 2 shots of tequila and now I'm a gonna play"
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kudzurunner
3978 posts
Mar 17, 2013
4:45 AM
Littoral
806 posts
Mar 17, 2013
6:16 AM
Passion, attitude, anger, joy.
I once played a section of Amazing Grace for 5 hours to "find" it.
BUT I am one who has a hard time finding this "abandon" in Levys playing. Sinister is an exception. Just my opinion :)

Last Edited by Littoral on Mar 17, 2013 6:16 AM
1847
596 posts
Mar 17, 2013
9:42 AM
you mean like this?

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tipjar
robbert
197 posts
Mar 17, 2013
10:33 AM
A producer is always looking for that 'X' factor to occur in the music.

He may look to you, as the harmonica instrumentalist/soloist, to provide that.

Actually, a producer is probably looking for anything to make the piece of music stand out in some way.

Someone who plays with real feeling and technical proficiency can obviously contribute a great deal to a recording/performance.
tbang
49 posts
Mar 17, 2013
6:33 PM
I typically have to convince myself to play with LESS abandon. It's usually the better thing to do.
bonedog569
855 posts
Mar 17, 2013
11:18 PM
Watched some of your videos. You are good - and you wouldn't be asked to do studio gigs if you wheren't.

You are who you are. You are a Duke after all - and a certain propriety comes along with that. I definitley get wilder and crazier than you at times- then again - it's who I am.

If you don't have a problem with alchohol, you might try taking a shot or two. Call up some emotional memory - anger, sorrow, lust and play off that.

In the end you bring your own sense of taste and personality to your music - and that's what people are going to get.




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colman
233 posts
Mar 18, 2013
3:08 PM
magic dick blow yo face out ,wammer jammer !!!!!!!
TetonJohn
105 posts
Mar 18, 2013
3:28 PM
I like the characterization of Roscoe Holcomb (not blues and not harp) as having "an untamed sense of control." I think it was Bob Dylan who described the Appalachian banjo/guitar player and singer that way -- pretty sure it was later used as an album title.
(Actually Holcomb is pretty harsh for me; I greatly prefer Dock Boggs' vocals). Jeez, that was way off topic.
Willspear
322 posts
Mar 18, 2013
4:21 PM
This version of this song by Jason Ricci is easily one of the best performances that takes an intensely ordered scale based/ run player and just takes it somewhere magical. His intense study of scales inside and out is what makes his runs really come together for me. His live stuff is virtuosic and over the top all while kind of riding the line of becoming unhinged. In this case its a tremendous tension device.

It has the content of the original album cut but amplified with an entirely different feel due to delivery.


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NdUkGV7pGzg&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNdUkGV7pGzg

Vs
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=nJf2rFsI8zA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DnJf2rFsI8zA

And somewhere in the middle.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=i4LJKA2O1gk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Di4LJKA2O1gk


It's easy to think its all in the amplification as to intensity but its the feel behind the playing that changes it the most. You can tell Jason was almost 3 different people between each version. It's radical how similar each version is content wise but what is delivered in each case is so different.

Last Edited by Willspear on Mar 18, 2013 4:40 PM
garry
378 posts
Mar 20, 2013
5:52 PM
wow. jimmy z rocked on that petty song.

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