K Williams
23 posts
Feb 25, 2013
9:48 AM
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Is there any reason why Shure make the Green Bullet mic with a permantly attached cord? Are there any companies out there that convert the mic to a 1/4" plug or screw on connection? Is the Green Bullet better than a Shaker Dynamic mic? Thanks.
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rainman
72 posts
Feb 25, 2013
11:05 AM
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http://www.greenbulletmics.com/Welcome_Page.php
Another good page with a lot of info on Bullet mics.
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dougharps
347 posts
Feb 25, 2013
3:20 PM
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An old school cheat for this is to cut the cord to a short pigtail and put a 1/4" jack on it. Then plug in a guitar cord. If you step on the cord you don't mess up the strain relief grounding connection at the mic, you just unplug it.
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Doug S.
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Stokes Bay Slim
6 posts
Feb 26, 2013
10:35 AM
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"Is the Green Bullet better than a Shaker Dynamic mic?" I have a GB 520dx and a Shaker Dynamic-the Shaker is many, many times better -better sounding,ultra reliable and has very little feedback issues.
Not sure about old Green Bullets-they are probably great
Last Edited by Stokes Bay Slim on Feb 26, 2013 10:43 AM
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Kingley
2364 posts
Feb 26, 2013
10:38 AM
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"Is the Green Bullet better than a Shaker Dynamic mic?:"
Short answer. Yes!
Longer answer. Get a 520D with a 99A86 element in it and you're cooking on gas!
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Kingley
2365 posts
Feb 26, 2013
1:21 PM
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Thanks JD. Yes I meant a 520.
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bloozefish
81 posts
Feb 26, 2013
2:09 PM
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@harpburn,
the strain-relief spring is also used as the ground connection between the shell and the cable. Lose that ground, and the mic is dead.
james
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dougharps
349 posts
Feb 26, 2013
2:57 PM
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@harpburn
Like bloozefish said...
It is not good to keep jerking on the connection at the mic, like when you step on the cord.
When someone like Greg installs a screw on connector like an Amphenol 1 connector, the mic ground is no longer linked to the spring strain relief as that strain relief is removed. If you use a matching screw on cord it is still bad to step on the cord and jerk on the connection. If you use the screw on adapter with a guitar cord, it unplugs when the cord is jerked.
Because of the problems with messing up the ground when using the mic people often cut the long cord and left a 2 or 3 foot pigtail with a quarter inch jack so a regular guitar cord could be used. The cord would unplug if stepped on. It is a cheap alternative to the screw on connector.
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Doug S.
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K Williams
25 posts
Feb 26, 2013
3:36 PM
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""An old school cheat for this is to cut the cord to a short pigtail and put a 1/4" jack on it. Then plug in a guitar cord. If you step on the cord you don't mess up the strain relief grounding connection at the mic, you just unplug it.
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Doug S.""
That sounds like a great idea. Thanks.
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harpburn
23 posts
Feb 27, 2013
8:46 AM
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Thanks, I see. A fella named Ted Crook once demonstrated this to me when discussing the Green Bullet. He stepped on the cable of his JT-30, and sure enough, it harmlessly dropped out. But he said that stepping on the GB cable causes strain to some part below the pigtails, which is why I'm scared that mine might snap.
Anyhow, anyone know where you can get on of these 1/4" jacks?
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rogonzab
240 posts
Feb 27, 2013
8:53 AM
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I had the same problem whit my Universal mic. This is what I did, and works great.
Hope it helps.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59246420/IMG_1423.JPG
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dougharps
351 posts
Feb 27, 2013
9:35 AM
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Here is one online source of a mono inline 1/4" jack:
Sweetwater - Switchcraft 1/4" jack
Parts Express and Radio Shack have other less expensive jacks, too. Mine from Radio Shack has worked OK so far. Quality and prices vary and some brands may not last as long as others.
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Doug S.
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harpburn
26 posts
Feb 27, 2013
10:08 AM
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Let's just see if I've got this straight - the jack screws onto the short pigtails? Is it just as simple as that?
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dougharps
353 posts
Feb 27, 2013
10:54 AM
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@harpburn
No... Not that simple.
Here is a link with pictures of the jack opened up so you can see the parts:
1/4" jack pictures
This involves cutting the cable (not too close to the mic, in case you have to redo it), stripping back some outer insulation, putting the jack cover on the pigtail (Metal covers have a plastic insulator that has to be put on after the cover to avoid shorts), soldering the ground shield in the wire to the connector in the jack for the ring, and stripping and soldering the hot lead(s) to the connector for the tip. You can look at your current 1/4" plug on the end of your long wire and wire the new jack the same way the old plug was wired. You want to pinch the insulated hot wire in the bendable claw connector to add strain relief.
Sometimes for strain relief I also use heat shrink tubing (slid over the wire after the jack cover, before soldering) to insulate and strengthen the connection to the jack.
If this all seems too complicated, I recommend you get someone who has experience with basic wiring/soldering to do it for you. A repair tech at a music store should be able to do this. Or you can always get Greg Heumann or another mic builder/modifier to put in a screw on connector with an adapter.
The pigtail is a cheap way to go if you can do it yourself.
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Doug S.
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harpburn
27 posts
Feb 27, 2013
11:12 AM
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Thanks for that handy step by step tutorial, Doug. Great! I'd rather try and do it myself, because then I will learn.
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