It aint cheap. Glad I went, had a great time. Might go again one day, but it's hard to justify the cost.
Jason Ricci, Magic Dick, Kenny Neal, Annie Raines, Taj Mahal, I took a lesson from Deak Harp, Jeff Paris, I'm sure I'm forgetting some---the list goes on, and those were just the harp players.
Go if you can
---------- Bluesharp- If you don't blow you suck...
If you go, I guess you'll have to stay drunk Kjoe...Multible shots and beer and boooom - frumby turns into a fashionable 36, 24, 36, super model :)
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"The pictures I've seen all over face book are frompy middle aged and older over weight women. I'm guessing mostly married or divorced for good reason."
Boys, boys, boys: I realize all the talk about ugly, overweight women is just your way of being gentlemen, but please take a look at the following paragraph from this forum's creed:
"Please also note: although conversation about blues harmonica and related issues is not something that should be subject to the hectoring of the Nanny State, neither is this forum a men's locker room in which casual (or intentional) ethinic or racial slurs, anti-gay rants, nationalist cant, pointed and sustained use of four-letter words, and/or misogynist diatribes are welcome."
The operative phrase here is "[T]his forum [is not] a men's locker room." I'm sorry, I really am. I realize that some of you would like it to be that. I realize that because of talk like this, it's possible that you've driven away the few women (young and old) who would actually like to participate as equals here.
I'll just ask you to pause for a moment before you contribute to threads like this and ask yourself: If you knew that women you respected--I'm sure everybody here can think of at least one--were reading this, would you really be writing the things you're writing.
This forum is not a men's locker room. Sorry, guys (and sorry, J.D., in particular). I realize that some of you want it to be that. It has to be a place where our fellow female harp-players feel welcome. It's not the Modern Blues Harmonica Men's Forum.
None of you are on warning as a result of what you've written; I'm just pleading for a little forbearance. It is just POSSIBLE that we've got a few active female members who may be cringing and saying nothing, and as the de facto (and de jure) ruler of this kingdom, I have to think about their well-being, too.
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guilty your honour. i knew it was wrong. I'm not even inebriated, except with evil spirits... Ah...I suppose I should delete my post...glad it wasn't about something really controversial, just banal misogynism. I would have been ok with quite a few of the hard case hard headed women I know reading it, in fact I'd use it to encourage banter, but there are some I wouldn't pitch it to. But it's gone... ----------
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The only men's locker room I've spent any time in the past 40 years is the Washington Athletic Club in downtown Seattle, where you have the most successful Seattle businessmen, bankers, lawyers, judges, etc.. I assure you that sort of humor would not be welcome other than privately between close friends. I have worked large Union construction projects (primarily high rises like the Colombia tower, Seafirst Plaza, etc..) running crews much of my adult life. This sort of humor again would never be acceptable in that multi-race mixed gender enviroment.
No sir the only place I've heard this sort of humor flow has been amongst musicians, or at a bar with old friends. That joke came from another music forum that I frequent. But I do apologize, I better understand where the line is drawn and it won't happen again. Honestly there were a couple of references in that joke that were too much for this old boy. Even so it was a joke, which most of realize should not be taken seriously.
Sorry girls. Have a merry Christmas.
I do want to add that I grew up with four older sisters and the majority of my adult friends have always been females, most men haven't got a clue what kind of conversations and jokes go on between women. I've been that fly on the wall.
---------- "Technical, schmechnical---put some heart in it, dammit!" ~ Paul deLay
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I posted the Estrin video, along with a few unwelcome comments, and finally passed along a joke that I saw yesterday. I thought I was just going with the flow, but it seems some think I was steering the craft. I deleted all previous to my apology.
I would like to point out that I never used the term "ugly", nor did I see that word anywhere but in Adam's post. I did refer to the women in the video and various photos I've seen on Facebook as frumpy. And I will stand by that assessment and definition. yes this: Frumpy 1. A girl or woman regarded as dull, plain, or unfashionable. 2. A person regarded as colorless and primly sedate.
But never this: Ugly
1. frightful, dire
2. a: offensive to the sight : hideous
b: offensive or unpleasant to any sense
3. morally offensive or objectionable
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Yeah, it was me who mentioned predators and "horrific-looking". I thought my post was at least clearly in the spirit of taking the piss out of cliche misogyny, as was JD's. both were clearly sending up that way of thinking...in my mind at least, but I guess it's in the mind of the reader that the action happens...gee whiz, most of my best friends are women...if I showed them those jokey posts they'd laugh and hit me or throw something and call me a rude name...
but those other guys...they were out of hand...just bad men. Should be ashamed of theyselfs
Seriously though, Adam was right to shut it down. It would have got out of hand left unchecked. That's how those things go. The next post would have to top the previous in some way. Adam is clearly right apart from being in charge and having a little more at stake than the average member. I'm apologising, sincerely. ----------
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