tookatooka
415 posts
Aug 27, 2009
1:56 AM
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Got the word this morning direct from Brendan in reply to a question I put to him on YouTube.
The Suzuki Manji will have Compromise Tuning.
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When I'm not blowing, I'm drawing.
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Bb
80 posts
Aug 27, 2009
7:45 AM
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Is this for real? Is everybody actually sure it won't be Equal Temperment? If they swing it towards a Compromise Tuning I may give her a go.
-Bob
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RyanMortos
266 posts
Aug 27, 2009
8:47 AM
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I second what Bb said. We'll have to wait & see.
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~Ryan
Pennsylvania - H.A.R.P. (Harmonica Association 'Round Philly)
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tookatooka
417 posts
Aug 27, 2009
9:13 AM
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Is this for real? Well the answer was from Brendan. I do hope he is right.
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When I'm not blowing, I'm drawing.
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harpinonfire
10 posts
Aug 27, 2009
11:26 AM
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Where I buy my suzuki promasters for $43.00 dollars plus shipping said he was going to get some and that would be the cost. Sometimes if I get the bid I can get a promaster from him for $38.00 plus shipping. Guess somebody can start a thread of places that sell cheaper.
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Buddha
952 posts
Aug 27, 2009
11:28 AM
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then you're paying over the stated retail.
Who are you buying from?
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harpinonfire
11 posts
Aug 27, 2009
11:38 AM
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It is a store on e-bay, can I say the name, anyhow it is bluzerd, I think that's spelled correctly. Thanks I'll continue to look around if nothing comes up on this site for a place with better price. I appreciate your headsup Budda.
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scstrickland
183 posts
Aug 27, 2009
4:18 PM
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O.K. could someone explain what is compromised tuning? and why is different (better?) than Just intonation (is that right).
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tookatooka
419 posts
Aug 27, 2009
4:29 PM
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
Equal tuning = good for melody but poor for chords.
Just intonation tuning = good for chords but can be poor for melody good for blues.
Compromised tuning = compromise between Just and Equal Tuning = good for chords and good for melody playing too.
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When I'm not blowing, I'm drawing.
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jonsparrow
859 posts
Aug 27, 2009
4:33 PM
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Ptolemaic Tuning is generally referred to as "just intonation". To create perfect major third intervals, this system alters one of the fifths, D-A. (And thus the major sixths are also perfect, except for F-D.) This makes the triad D-F-A quite unusable, although the others are perfectly in tune. The Just Intonation scale employs two different sized tones in the ratios 9:8 and 10:9, and thus it can hardly be considered satisfactory even for purely melodic music
In equal temperament the octave is divided into 12 equal semi-tones each of 100 cents. The intervals are then built from the semi-tones. For example a fifth is 7 semi-tones and a third 5. The Equal temperament scale is universally used today in Western music.
"Compromise temperament" is something of an awkward term, as all temperaments are by definition some sort of compromise. However, this term and the similar term "compromise tuning" have in the harmonica world been used to describe a fine tuning of the harmonica that is neither Just Intonation nor 12 Tone Equal Temperament, but somewhere in between. The idea of these tunings is to give smoother chords than those given by 12TET, without having the harmonica deviate too far from the tuning of the accompanying instruments.
The degree to which the tuning is compromised is a matter of personal preference. Perhaps the most obvious place to start is with what guitarists have come to call "half tempered" tuning. As the name suggests, this involves tuning a given note halfway between its equally tempered value and where it would be if you were to tune justly.
Last Edited by on Aug 27, 2009 4:37 PM
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scstrickland
184 posts
Aug 27, 2009
5:07 PM
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thanks Tooka very well put
Thanks Jon those looks like a great websites
http://www.pyxidium.u-net.com/Acoustics/MusicMaths/MusicMaths.html
http://www.patmissin.com/tunings/tun9.html
Last Edited by on Aug 27, 2009 5:13 PM
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