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About vibrato
About vibrato
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laurent2015
535 posts
Nov 16, 2012
11:06 AM
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Often approached issue, I suppose, but here are some questions and remarks about vibrato from a sworn virgin guy.
-I consider vibratoing icing on the cake, but not a piece of cake, because failing in it leads to the worst.
If a vibrato involves a slight pitch changing, then the first failure is to perform kind of echo or reverb: also funny, but no vibrato!
The rhythm of your own vibrato is not enough controlled or inappropriate: it's missed as well.
You have not enough breathing reserve, but you still attempt
your (diaphragm) vibrato: new screw up.
If you mix those mistakes, you'd better cut and run.
Questions:
There are several techniques for vibrato, but I personaly don't manage any of them, rather messing around them!
-Do you mix those different techniques, varying them according to the context, or do you use only one?
-How do you get on with the own rhythm vibrato, e.g. a slow
tune involves a slow rhythm vibrato or not mandatory?
-If you perform a "vibratoable" note, do you start vibrating, for example, after 1 or 2 seconds? less/more?
-besides the hand vibrato, which can be used for certain kinds of blues, but not for others IMO, could you describe your technique, whatever it is, but possibly including the slight shake of your harp -less used technique I think- but hugely efficient on CERTAIN holes.
-last stupid little, for the road: would your technique be different according to either blowing or drawing?
Thanks for your contribution!
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Milsson
45 posts
Nov 16, 2012
2:34 PM
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David barret explains that he bend the note ever so slightly and then puts throat tremolo on that and that generates a wavering of pitch. I tend to use the same muscles as bending to create vibrato, i bend with the throat and not the tongue. If you do vibrato with a series of small bends rather then David Barrets way you can make bigger or smaller wavering, pitch wise that is.
I try to time the vibrato to the time signature either as 8th, 16th or triplets and if you combine a vibrato in 8th and open and close your cup in triplets you get a fun sound, try it.
In a slow blues deep slow vibrato is very powerful but fast vibrato can be very powerful to, butterfield do this in drifting and drifting.
I´ve found a little subtlety that Jason Ricci does that is SO nice. He starts a tone on the of beat or ever so slightly before the beat and spot on the beat he starts to waver the pitch and open his cup in a wah. It is hard to explain but i feel it is one of his signatures.
I´ve been seriously training my vibrato for a year or so. I started to do adams exercise daily and today i don´t think very much about my vibrato it´s just there when i need it. BUT i do adams exercises once a week maybe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pUqFV7T2dA
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harmonicanick
1762 posts
Nov 16, 2012
2:44 PM
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You can just move your hands and press the harp against the lips
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chopsy
11 posts
Nov 16, 2012
3:01 PM
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not everyone can do that, nick
<-- 90% rack player. I only drop the bass (pun intended) for one song I play harp on and getting used to hand vibrato would just make me miss it when it's racked.
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STME58
287 posts
Nov 16, 2012
3:05 PM
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A virbrato I use that would work with a rack is a jaw virbrato. For me it is a cary over from trombone playing but I have seen it addressed in on line harp lessons posted on this forum.
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chopsy
12 posts
Nov 16, 2012
3:12 PM
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mine comes from the throat like Adam's video Milsson posted a few posts up, out of that necessity. still a work in progress to get it sounding that sweet and in rhythm from sure!
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