Leatherlips
146 posts
Oct 16, 2012
12:54 AM
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I think I already know the answer, and it's NO.
What I mean is the learning process. I've started playing with another band + duo with the guitarist and I'm finding there is still so much more to know.
A number I thought I was familiar with is presented to me by the guitarist and he says " I think it changes there to a straight 12 bar", and I listen and of course he's right. I've been sticking more to the melody line and not listening properly to what's been going on.
Bloody hell. I've played this number many times before and nobody pointed that out. Don't worry, I'm taking full responsibility for this.
Sometimes I just want it all to go away and I won't concern myself about music ever again.
I've always said I'm not a musician, but when people come up to me after a gig and say how well I've played, I get confused later on when I'm trying to learn new numbers and have difficulty giving another player what he wants.
Anyhow, I'm playing a bracket with this guy in a couple of weeks and I'm sure it will be OK.
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jbone
1082 posts
Oct 16, 2012
3:59 AM
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you know if it's in you it has to come out. learning the mechanics is only a tool to open up and let what's inside come out and be heard.
i can't count the times i've made that sort of faux pas and had similar commentary. i refused to call myself a musician for a long time since i'd never had any kind of music course in school. eventually at least in my book the school of hard knocks- an intersection of where stubbornness and a student attitude met- allowed me to learn enough to be semi-fluent in identifying a chord structure and song structure and an ability to ask for what i need on stage even with people i never met before that moment. i think that may qualify as a musician. all the details we learn to sound right and good are elements of musicianship.
last year i was trying to teach two youngsters to play harmonica. one was 7, the other was 11. the little one has a natural ability but i think was put off by the idea of chugging. his lungs are just not big enough and i couldn't get across the idea of how to exhale to him. but hopefully he's still doing what he's comfortable doing. the 11 year old was tougher. she would ask the hard questions and i'd have to re-evaluate my explanations to include every smallest detail of how i just did that one thing, like a choke, a double stop, etc etc. and i barely know what these terms mean my own self, i just know how and when to do them to sound how i want to.
i am willing to bet your set will go well with this guy. he sounds like a good partner and someone who can teach some important lessons.
at about 40 years since i blew my first note on a harp there is still more to learn than what i have already learned. no, it never stops. but it's quite a goal!
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chromaticblues
1379 posts
Oct 16, 2012
9:05 AM
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NO!
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walterharp
959 posts
Oct 16, 2012
9:16 AM
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yes, but then you are dead
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LittleBubba
243 posts
Oct 16, 2012
9:20 AM
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Don't you think that this is one of the great things about playin' with different musicians... the new things you can learn...? I do.
I worked for a guy a few years back ( a guitarist/frontman ) who really had a different-- almost computer like-- approach to rhythms. At first I thought he was full of crap, but then I figured out how consistent he was in his approach, and I caught onto it, and even liked it. He was about as different as Ry Cooder. It's stuff like that that I love.
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Leatherlips
147 posts
Oct 16, 2012
2:52 PM
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This guitarist is an awesome player and of course requires others to be his equal to accompany him. Yes, this is a privilege to even be asked, but I allow myself that niggling doubt. As he pointed out, I play much better when I'm not analysing.
Maybe I'll stop letting my right hand know what my left hand is doing.
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jbone
1085 posts
Oct 17, 2012
4:06 AM
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good plan LL. autopilot is a good thing sometimes. in fact i have found that once on stage, no matter what may have been on my mind when i stepped up, once the first note is struck, i am going someplace else. in the zone. sometimes it's like i'm a spectator and not even playing. it's the ZONE.
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garry
282 posts
Oct 17, 2012
4:16 AM
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thankfully, no, it never ends.
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