HarpNinja
2726 posts
Oct 03, 2012
8:38 AM
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Why aren't there harmonicas that repeat the bottom three holes of a Richter harp three times?
C E G C E G C E G C
D G B D G B D G B D
I know the SBS does this in two octaves.
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Gnarly
339 posts
Oct 03, 2012
8:34 AM
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Thiago Cervera tunes his harps like this.
Here's Juke . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSavyqHpRZA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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HarpNinja
2727 posts
Oct 03, 2012
8:43 AM
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I can't get YT to work on this network, but I can't wait to hear it!
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ElkRiverHarmonicas
1314 posts
Oct 03, 2012
1:43 PM
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Because people wouldn't buy them. That's the real reason.
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AirMojo
313 posts
Oct 03, 2012
6:56 PM
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I would buy at least one to try out, probably a key of A or Bb... I just dread the idea of really liking it and trying to replace my regular richter-tuned harps !
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AC
40 posts
Oct 03, 2012
8:39 PM
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Maybe it's just me but I don't think that's the tuning being used on that Youtube video (great playing, btw). It sounds like to me that at one point (begining of the fourth chorus) he's clearly playing a draw 5 followed by a quarter-note bend, in second position. The note is the flat 7 which would be regular tuning, on that hole anyway. It would certainly sound a different if it started out as a whole-tone bend according to the tuning above.
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Gnarly
341 posts
Oct 03, 2012
11:31 PM
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Yeah, I don't know if he is using that tuning on that song--but I am sure that he uses that tuning.
In fact, here is a post to Harp-L from PT concerning this issue.
http://harp-l.org/pipermail/harp-l/2011-June/msg00104.html
I just checked Overblow.com (he manifests the Altered States tunings) and didn't see it.
I tried it once, it's too much for me!
G
Last Edited by on Oct 04, 2012 12:17 AM
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barbequebob
2042 posts
Oct 04, 2012
10:06 AM
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You have to remember this one thing and the fact is that when the harmonica was invented, it was designed to be played in 1st position only, and not 2nd position as a lot of people seem to believe, and that belief is totally dead wrong.
The layout Harp Ninja listed can make sense for playing largely in 2nd position BUT, with any alternate tuning, as much as there advantages, there are always drawbacks and the very first thing you lose right off the bat is the draw chord that includes the 9th (and with a key of C harp in 2nd position, the draw chord from holes 1-6 is a G9).
The thing to remember is that many players have an extremely difficult time remember where everything is just in the standard richter tuning being used for over the last 100+ years and having to learn an alternate tuning is often a gigantic challenge for the average player bacause many of them just don't want to take the time and woodshedding necessary to learn the standard tuning and adding another tuning for them to learn adds a huge monkey wrench into the eqaution and the richter tuning was setup so that it would be much easier for most people to remember and again, the harp was NEVER designed to be played in any other position but 1st position and for 98% of the songs ever composed, you have your two basic chords, the I & the V chord, especially a V7 or V9 chord being the most common and in first position, some of the licks normally played in 1st position like what BW played in La Cucaracha suddenly becomes more of a challenge because of the bend and for a beginning player, they're often not going to be accurate in their bending at all and it becomes mushy.
The circular/spiral tuning was probably the first tuning scheme devised, but for many players who are often not going to bother to learn where the notes are on their harmonicas, it becomes a more difficult thing to remember and chording can often be totally out of the question.
Alternate tunings, again give advantages, but they most certainly do have their drawbacks as well and the most common alternate tuning, country tuning, you'd be surprised at how many players have a really hard time dealing with that.
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