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kudzurunner
3545 posts
Sep 25, 2012
3:38 PM
A colleague of mine at another institution has requested that I share the following with this forum. Bottom line: participants are wanted for a study of stage fright among musicians.




Music Performance Anxiety is a serious problem for musicians of all types, yet within the Psychological literature, it is a relatively understudied form anxiety. Would you be willing to participate in an online research study entitled, Anxiety in Musicians: On and Off Stage? This research is headed by D. Riley Nicholson, studying Music Performance and Psychology at the University of Memphis under the supervision of J. Gayle Beck PhD. If you are interested, the link to the survey is: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RRHGZTH

Thank you!
Komuso
52 posts
Sep 25, 2012
5:50 PM
Interesting study. As a former competitive sportsman at world level in sport parachuting
Australian Team 1990 Box formation I've been exposed to a lot of sports psychology that addresses the area of performance anxiety.

On a lot of levels music is no different from sports as it is about directed energy and mental/physical peak performance, and I think a lot of the same sports psych techniques can benefit musicians. Such as: warm up, relaxation techniques, mental rehearsals and visualisation, focused debriefs, video debriefs etc etc.

Are they going to publish the results anywhere as the study progresses?
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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
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CarlA
124 posts
Sep 25, 2012
6:19 PM
Learned a little trick from Carl Weathers. You just need to find your "happy place". Never fails!!

Last Edited by on Sep 25, 2012 6:21 PM
Komuso
53 posts
Sep 25, 2012
6:52 PM
Sports Psychology Techniques for goal setting

Sports Psychology For Dummies Cheat Sheet


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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo
Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream

Last Edited by on Sep 25, 2012 6:54 PM
HarveyHarp
370 posts
Sep 25, 2012
9:13 PM
Don't have it, Don't want it.
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Leatherlips
136 posts
Sep 26, 2012
2:02 AM
I think Kudzurunner is asking for volunteers for this study. Not sure if he needs unsolicited advice.
Komuso
55 posts
Sep 26, 2012
2:21 AM
I think we can all read;-)

No one's giving advice to Kudzurunner at all, he's obviously an experienced performer.

The topic raised is important though, and probably a lot more common than you think. Same with public speaking in a way.

Well worth discussing people's experience of it imo.

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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo
Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream
BronzeWailer
800 posts
Sep 26, 2012
5:56 PM
Done.
kudzurunner
3546 posts
Sep 26, 2012
7:05 PM
I had a bit of stage fright very early in my career. I can't remember the last time I had any. After thousands of performances, it just.....evaporated.

So no, I wasn't asking for advice. I'm not sure that any has been tendered. I thought Komuso was simply sharing in the spirit of the thread: sharing information. I'm quite sure that some members of this forum have a bit of stage fright and I'm sure that they were intrigued, as I was, by the sports psychology angle.
gene
1095 posts
Sep 26, 2012
7:35 PM
Even John Lennon and Ringo Starr had stage fright.

Here's an article about stage fright.
Leatherlips
137 posts
Sep 26, 2012
8:38 PM
OK, point taken. I guess I'm too sensitive to guys in particular wanting to give advice rather than to simply either listen or offer support. I wasn't trying to demean anyone in my statement.
Anyway, I know I used to have stage fright to the point of having to go to the toilet before a performance. Still get the butterflies occasionally.
gene
1096 posts
Sep 26, 2012
9:23 PM
I'm curious as to what the study that Adam mentioned would actually study. What is the goal of the study? What do they need to learn in order to reach that goal?

(All this "advise" stuff is interesting, too.)
kudzurunner
3548 posts
Sep 27, 2012
5:02 AM
Gene: I haven't the faintest idea. I merely copied and pasted from the email that J Gayle Beck sent me--the capsule description.
Steamrollin Stan
577 posts
Sep 27, 2012
5:28 AM
Sometimes i get scared of paper clips at work, does this mean anything????
Honkin On Bobo
1063 posts
Sep 27, 2012
5:51 AM
It means that you are overly concerned that the paper clips will not approve of your filing performance, Stan.

A common afflliction in the cubicle drone world, try picturing them naked or in their underwear................or, seek therapy.


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Oh yeah, add Carly Simon to the list of big time performers with stage fright. Her's was/is a severe form apparently. Lastly, Jim Morrison, yes that Jim Morrison, was so shy in the early days of The Doors, he used to stay facing the band during performances....although he ......er, "overcame" that shyness as they performed more. Jim's cure? Massive quantities of alcohol, hallucinogens and other assorted substances. Not a recommended course of treatment by the AMA.

Last Edited by on Sep 27, 2012 6:08 AM
Noodles
343 posts
Sep 27, 2012
8:12 AM
Sometimes i get scared of paper clips at work, does this mean anything????

Mayolatephobia – the fear of something small and metallic.
ReedSqueal
329 posts
Sep 27, 2012
11:55 AM
What is ironic (I think anyways) is that the survey sign up process excludes you if you answer the second question 'No'

The question reads: "Do you perform in at least 4 or more performances per year (i.e. public orchestra performances, recitals, or non-classical gigs) NOT INCLUDING classroom work/performances (i.e. required juries, classroom performances or examinations)."

The irony is... what if you have such severe stage fright that you are unable to perform more than 4 per year? Wonder why 4 is a magic number for their data.

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2chops
95 posts
Sep 27, 2012
6:44 PM
I find the topic of stagefright to be fascinating and multifaceted. In fact it reminds me of quantum theory and "the influence of an outside observer". Not to mention "group mentality" based behaviour. For instance...I do a solo act and also play in 2 groups. I know my material very well for both situations, but when I go solo I have a little more apprehension for the first few tunes. Yet when I'm playing with either group the SF is not nearly as bothersome. My theory is that "the outside observer", the audience, is less focused on me the side man than on me the OMB. The group "absorbs" some of the energy of expectation and therefore lessens the pressure of performance. Anyhow, that's the short version.
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Frank
1234 posts
Sep 28, 2012
5:09 AM

That article that Gene has a link to, I thought was poignant in every way!
chromaticblues
1360 posts
Sep 28, 2012
9:22 AM
@ReedSqueal Yeah that is a good question!
There must be some people that are very talented that can't bring themselves to play in an "uncontrolled environment".
Komuso
65 posts
Sep 28, 2012
9:31 AM
This passage from William Clarke: Now That You Are Gone was interesting (and sad when you read the whole thing).

"The Blues Is Killing Me

"Let's see where do I begin, says Clarke-Lodovici. "Well, let's start out with him going to the doctor because he was bleeding from his arm. The doctor said to Bill, 'Please remove your sunglasses.' Bill did. The doctor said, 'You have a drinking problem, don't you.?' Bill didn't deny it. The doctor asked me to leave the room. Bill said to him that I should stay because I knew everything about him and he didn't want anything hidden.

"The doctor told Bill he had about a year left of his life to go if he didn't stop drinking. In fact, I remember the doctor asking him why he drank. Bill said that he was basically a very shy person and that drinking helped him face his fans when he was playing. The more popular he became, the more Bill drank...He was now in front of thousands, not just little local bars.


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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo
Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream
Komuso
66 posts
Sep 28, 2012
7:22 PM
This ones also interesting:

Taking Stock Before Taking the Stage
Are your thoughts helping or hindering your performance success?

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Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa
HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo
Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream
Mojokane
567 posts
Sep 29, 2012
12:03 AM
thanks, but no thanks, I don't have it so bad.
my 2 cents,
What seems to work best, for me...now that I think about why.
I imagine a classroom.
I teach them an authentic historical living musical document. A not often heard, or understood, chunk of American heritage.
I am also discovering, I'm more relaxed and confident the more I know my material. It steps in when I try out a new song. And quickly dissipates after I do it a few times. Stage fright, or phobia? Butterflies, or panic attack>>>? how bad are you?




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Last Edited by on Sep 29, 2012 12:03 AM
Rick Davis
766 posts
Sep 29, 2012
8:26 PM
No stage fright or nervousness for me at all. Way back when I was a big drinker it would come on sometimes like a panic attack. After I quit drinking it went away and my playing got a lot better. So, I'm not sure alcohol helps with stage fright. It made it worse for me.


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-Rick Davis

Last Edited by on Sep 29, 2012 8:26 PM
Frank
1273 posts
Oct 07, 2012
4:49 AM

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