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Buddha
378 posts
May 08, 2009
2:43 PM
learning blues and musical evolution - some the elements that make up my music.


I never liked the sound of blues harp players so I learned blues from the guys I thought they would have drawn from. I saw this video when I was young and it's THIS clip that taught me how to attack notes and phrases. With these "attacks" I always had the image of hurting somebody and when I just watched this clip again I felt like ol' lightnin' was cutting somebody with a knife during certain phrases.


Emotion in it's rawest form. Violence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFTSm_LX8kE

Another blues man that has inspired my playing. You can still hear it
in my blues playing if you listen closely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FrE0bUKLbE

Another blues cat that really helped me with phrasing and the
injection of emotion into my playing. I find this person's music less
violent and more lonely but lonely as if he's screaming from the
depths of hell. Which is still violent in a way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfk5gs9x5Jk

A huge musical influence and a bridge that got me into other forms of
music. I also learned about mixing other types of music with whatever
I am playing and feeling. This is the man that taught me about
exploring all sounds on my instrument. I also learned about playing
being dynamic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORMsYWJ6fLI

This is one of my favorite musicians on the planet. I learn about
playing with intensity. When I listen to this person it's like
watching the power of lightning streak across the sky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddlo6UKM6go

Depth comes from this man. Like a well of souls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdNsleEr0LQ

Elevation of music (taking the music with you) Flying like a bird
above the forest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h2uL8lk2lM

Connection with all that is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl2yImS6gsk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra7-HnqbNPk

Rhythm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXxJGtnOrOE

My contemporary sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TKy9vH5X2g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOaIrCMu1ck


Beauty and Vibrato
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eamRlKTe7rU

Floating on the wave of music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU9-TIa4nAQ

Power and flair for the Dramatic in music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdoPRLkXHD4

Playfulness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iimMKWF7SK0

Being FUNKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf4IOoSHbC8

Playing like a Horn player (sorry not a great video example)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMhrScWm634

Equipment doesn't matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-A2llhZbBM

GROOVE and Being original and stretching the boundaries of the instrument
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2T-RjhyLY

******

Questions for blues harp players:
Why is this considered blues but if it were played on a harp it
wouldn't be blues?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdyvPg0c6bI

Why is only one of these players considered a "blues man"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmEBTUbaWjA
GermanHarpist
332 posts
May 08, 2009
3:03 PM
THANK YOU!

...the next step (on a silver platter ;).

Btw, the first two vids don't work due to copyright violations. But it could also just be like this in europe.
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Last Edited by on May 08, 2009 3:38 PM
Patrick Barker
272 posts
May 08, 2009
3:13 PM
That's an amazingly eclectic list of influences- no wonder your playing is so unique. As for the last video, Clapton is a blues guy in my book. He branches out to more popular genres but he definitely plays some awesome blues too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxTWQD91b5c).

also, just so you know a lot of your links aren't working... a bunch of them say they have been taken down due to copywrite infringement.

Edit- just read GH's post, these videos are having problems in the US too
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"Without music, life would be a mistake" -Nietzsche

Last Edited by on May 08, 2009 3:14 PM
The Gloth
23 posts
May 09, 2009
9:13 AM
To me also, Clapton is a blues man, even if he played also in other kinds of music. After all, the old bluesmen back in time used to play songs that weren't really blues songs, like rags and so on.
Miles Dewar
342 posts
May 09, 2009
12:31 PM
so, what's the answer to the question?

"Why is this considered blues but if it were played on a harp it
wouldn't be blues?"


Or are you saying that this is what "non-harpers" say? That video was awesome. Very cool.
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RyanMortos
169 posts
May 11, 2009
5:13 PM
Think I missed out on a bunch of these but thanks for sharing them with us!

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oldwailer
726 posts
May 11, 2009
10:42 PM
A couple of silly answers:

It's considered a blues because Freddie King is playing it--on a harp it'd be a break-down--like Dr. Ross.

Only 1 of them is a blues man because only one of them wears a hat.

Intrestingly eclectic, master! It reminds me of the sounds of your workshop. . .
Buddha
399 posts
May 12, 2009
4:07 AM
a yes the sounds of my workshop... I had different forms of music on everyday. Not to impress Oldwailer but rather because I can't listen to the same type of music for more than a day.

We went from Jazz, to arabic, to indian, to african, to classical, to south american, to blues, to bulgarian and who knows whatever else. I can't express how much I appreciate a man like Ray. I don't know anybody other than my wife that can handle my tastes in music and Ray passed with flying colors.
Preston
338 posts
May 12, 2009
5:49 AM
I'm still interested in finding that first link that is busted. I'd like to see what taught you to attack notes. Is that Lighting Hopkins? His greatest hits was the first blues album I ever listened to when I was about 16.

On a side note, before I was 16, I thought Clint Black was the original singer of Desperado. I was a little musically sheltered in the country world.
Buddha
403 posts
May 12, 2009
6:07 AM
it was lightning hopkins but I can't find the same video. It was very specific where he would be playing and singing about how some woman wronged him and then he would play a couple of notes that felt like you were just cut by a knife.
XHarp
51 posts
May 12, 2009
6:20 AM
This is what I got when I clipped it,

This video has been removed due to terms of use violation.

But you're right, Lightnin' had an incredible attack even though his timing was extremely eratic.
Interestingly I noticed after listen to a number of his recordings you can hear the stuff that Hendrix, SRV and even Clapton used. He was doing what we came to love, long before it was popular.
Gotta go back now and get tthe rest of those vid's.
Thanks for sharing.
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"Keep it in your mouth" - XHarp
mr_so&so
94 posts
May 12, 2009
10:11 AM
Thanks Buddha, that was a cool ride. Freddie King was especially awesome. I believe that last clip forgot to mention Robert Cray there too. Clapton's heart, I believe is in the blues. What was the Lightning Hopkins tune you wanted us to hear? Maybe someone can find the album it was on.... I'm rambling because I'm all shaken up from that trip. Great stuff.
sopwithcamels266
35 posts
May 12, 2009
10:24 AM
Gloth: I agree with you( Eric Clapton is a blues man) and if you got chance to ask him I believe Eric would too.

Heres something you will like. I was always of the opinion that some of Erics best work was with Cream although he dosen't see it that way.I understand that.

It was I think Jack Bruce not Ginger baker, yea Jack that once said.

"Cream was basically a jazz band but no one told Eric"

Brilliant statement and thats why I believe it worked.

Last Edited by on May 12, 2009 10:43 AM
Buddha
405 posts
May 12, 2009
11:46 AM
I don't remember the name, it's one of those things I know when I hear it. I have it somewhere on cassette or LP from when I first heard it but all of that stuff in MN with my parents.


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