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Todd Parrott
1015 posts
Sep 04, 2012
12:41 AM
This may be of interest to Golden Melody players... I hope I'm not reading this wrong, but I just noticed that the Hohner catalog shows the Golden Melody as being available again in High G:

Hohner Catalog

These were discontinued many years ago, along with the low tunings. I understand why the low tunings went away (reed rattle) but never understood why the High G was discontinued.

Glad to see they're back! Now I can buy one and turn it into a High Ab! :)
Littoral
606 posts
Sep 04, 2012
3:41 PM
Hey There, mine has been in the box forever until last week when I was doing pre-war blues and it was just what I needed. Are there any other brands making them?

Last Edited by on Sep 04, 2012 3:41 PM
Todd Parrott
1018 posts
Sep 04, 2012
4:04 PM
Yes, that's the thing; just about every harp is available in high G, which is why I never understood why the Golden Melody high G was ever discontinued.
The Iceman
448 posts
Sep 04, 2012
4:42 PM
Hey Todd,

Do you just use standard richter tuned harmonicas or do you venture into special tunings - especially in the upper holes?
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Todd Parrott
1020 posts
Sep 04, 2012
6:01 PM
I use richter, except for tuning down the 7 draw. I've tried the PowerBender, PowerBlow, and some other tunings, which I will gladly use if the tuning works well with a particular song.

I also like 11th position for certain tunes.
bigd
373 posts
Sep 04, 2012
11:42 PM
Amazingly I received a few GM low tunings (old stock) from someone recently (LEb, LF#, and LF) and none have a rattle. I have 2 other LF GM's I love - Joe Spiers worked on 1 and Harvey Berman the other and I love them both but they originally had the rattle. I did a show with Felicia Collins ( the David Letterman band's guitarist) tonight and she seriously loved the tone of my LGM's: very hornlike.....Thanks for the heads up about the HG's.....I play the AGM you tuned the 7 down for me often. My best. d
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harmonicanick
1713 posts
Sep 05, 2012
1:12 AM
Well spotted Todd, I bet that has only been released in US not UK but I will try and get one.

I use high G quite often, for contrast.

@bigd
That is amazing, I have been playing GM for years and never knew they did those
Todd Parrott
1021 posts
Sep 05, 2012
10:34 AM
@bigd - Very cool man! I have all the GM low keys too, but they all have reed rattle. Sometimes reed rattle can be a good thing. In my recent train song recording, the reed rattle on the low E actually sounded like a train noise.

To me, a high G, or any higher key, sounds better on a harp with full-length covers.
harmonicanick
1714 posts
Sep 05, 2012
11:24 AM
@Todd
Please can you explain exactly what 'reed rattle' is please?
Todd Parrott
1022 posts
Sep 05, 2012
11:48 AM
That's when the 1 draw reed (and sometimes 2 draw) hits and rattles against the cover plate, because the cover plate is too shallow. The Thunderbird style covers help alleviate this problem.

NOTE: Just confirmed with Hohner that the Golden Melody in High G is no longer available. Things have changed since this guide was published.
harmonicanick
1715 posts
Sep 05, 2012
11:51 AM
Ok thanks, lets hope for up-graded GM's in the future
The Iceman
449 posts
Sep 05, 2012
7:10 PM
I have a full set of Golden Melodies - high G down to low Eb - all are at least 15 years old or older. None have that low end rattle. I believe these were produced before a change in design or screws in the plates happened. I like them better than the new ones.

Todd - I thought I heard an altered reed in the recordings posted from your performance at Adam's gathering this year. Nice to know that I can still trust my ears.
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Todd Parrott
1023 posts
Sep 05, 2012
8:20 PM
One of the techs from Hohner said once that reed rattle could be greatly reduced by adjusting the gapping, but I haven't tried it. These low GM's are pretty old as well, and all have nails.

As for the altered reed, I use the flattened 7 draw these days mainly as a note to bounce off of, rather than a replacement for the 6 overblow.

I will send you a link to a rough, unmixed, unfinished version of "Sunday Soup" so you can hear a better example of how I'm using that tuning.

Last Edited by on Sep 05, 2012 8:21 PM
HarpNinja
2642 posts
Sep 06, 2012
8:47 AM
No rattle here! ;)



I had a High A Golden Melody to try out from Matthew...pretty cool set-up he has going.
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Todd Parrott
1024 posts
Sep 06, 2012
9:57 AM
I like the idea of the dimples in the draw cover plate, but I'm not crazy about Seydel reeds, no matter how well they are customized, etc. However, due to availability, I can see why Seydel was the choice for this project.

Matt placed a dimple in my Ab Golden Melody and it helped a lot - no reed rattle.

A better solution would be if Hohner created a deeper cover plate design for lower keys, starting around A, though not as radical as the Thunderbird design (which works great for Marine Bands).

At one time, I think I had some lower key Lee Oskars that also had deeper draw plate covers.

Last Edited by on Sep 06, 2012 9:57 AM
HarveyHarp
365 posts
Sep 06, 2012
10:21 AM
@ Bigd, Just the fact that you mentioned my name in the same sentance with Joe Spiers is humbling. Thanks
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HarpNinja
2643 posts
Sep 06, 2012
10:35 AM
You can still retune for a lot of the keys, I think the dimple is really the big thing, although I prefer conical plates.

I would imagine the cost part vs niche is a major issue. The Thunderbird isn't $125 because they make twice as much profit as the Crossover.

You'd have to redo the reed plate and bottom cover plate design on the least popular handmade harp (which probably sells a lot less than other Chinese Hohners too). Hence, the coolness of the dimple.

Matthew always has cool cover ideas. The tool he uses to make MB covers conical is literally one of a kind and it takes like 30s to do.
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Todd Parrott
1025 posts
Sep 06, 2012
11:09 AM
Perhaps its lack of popularity is due to its tuning, cover plate design, brittle comb, and mostly lack of marketing on Hohner's part. You can't even buy a Golden Melody t-shirt, iron-on patch, etc. (Special 20 either.) And they're never in the music stores.

The Golden Melody hasn't gotten an upgrade since the design first appeared in 1957 as a 100 year anniversary model. (Btw, it was not designed by Chamber Huang.)

But still, the tone is my favorite for my style of playing. It is perfect in the studio for acoustic playing on a condenser mic.
HarpNinja
2645 posts
Sep 06, 2012
11:12 AM
The went from nails to screws and nickel to stainless steel..





I totally get what you're saying and just being a smart@$$.
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