mikolune
16 posts
Mar 23, 2009
5:07 AM
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I will start this thread by saying I particularly enjoy Chris' acerbic attitude, always gets me laughing onto a good laugh for the day. Plus he has some good advice, from time to time.
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Hollistonharper
52 posts
Mar 23, 2009
5:38 AM
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Adam's given us an unmoderated harp forum. This thread and the whole Buddha thing is really off track, a distraction from why we are all here, and kind of immature. I'm a big fan of certain kinds of bad behavior, but not this one. Please can we all moderate ourselves a bit and just drop this theme?
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MrVerylongusername
204 posts
Mar 23, 2009
6:06 AM
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I second that.
Let's remember that people should not have to explicitly state "In my opinion" every time they post. It's simply implied. If you disagree, fine - state a clear and balanced argument to the contrary.
Singling out one specific poster seems to be at odds with the whole egalitarian vibe on this board.
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Buzadero
49 posts
Mar 23, 2009
6:14 AM
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In my opinion.....we should stop tiptoeing around and go march on Buddha's house. I don't care how many dogs he has. He can't can't take us all.
Hey, I didn't get a harraumph outta that guy.
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GermanHarpist
175 posts
Mar 23, 2009
6:26 AM
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word, tryharp.
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mikolune
17 posts
Mar 23, 2009
6:30 AM
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Guys,
this is *only* a thread for Buddha support/bashing - and *that's all* - please post somewhere else if you have something else to say. I guess that would imply removing most of your posts above. thanks for your cooperation.
Last Edited by on Mar 23, 2009 6:31 AM
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GermanHarpist
176 posts
Mar 23, 2009
6:39 AM
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"this is *only* a thread for Buddha support/bashing" - there was enough of that already, mikolune. Now it is more about keeping bad vibe out of the forum - and I think a "bash party" does not really help. But thanks anyway...
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Honkin On Bobo
43 posts
Mar 23, 2009
6:46 AM
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Hey, it's one thing to get into a bit of a scrap with another poster while arguing a passionately held point of view. It's quite another to start a thread for the purpose of singling out any individual poster. Even if it has been labeled support/bash. I can't abide that.
In this case "The Dude definitely DOES NOT abide."
Last Edited by on Mar 23, 2009 6:46 AM
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Arbite
17 posts
Mar 23, 2009
7:06 AM
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This thread will not make anyone happy but your own Ego, And that aint gonna last long, Shut down this thread and lets focus on creating a better world for Harmonica Players out there =)
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kudzurunner
323 posts
Mar 23, 2009
7:41 AM
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Guys:
This is getting tiresome. I'm not going to lock the thread. Instead, I've just deleted Mikolune from the membership rolls. He's out.
I hate to be a badass, but if you're stupid enough to start threads with the title that heads this one, you don't deserve the privilege of being part of this community.
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JTThirty
27 posts
Mar 23, 2009
7:42 AM
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If you don't like the thread, then don't read it or respond--Whoops! Anyway--
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djm3801
54 posts
Mar 23, 2009
3:34 PM
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Adam,
Good move. As I said in a post, people have to be mature and filter the style delivery of a message from the message.
I am feelin the love.. (Is there a Blues song by that name? Probably somewhere.)
Dan
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GermanHarpist
183 posts
Mar 23, 2009
3:51 PM
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PARTYYYY,... party??... no party? ... mikolune..? ..anybody? LOL
*moving on,.. maybe there's a party in another thread*
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Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 10:23 AM
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Zhin
170 posts
Mar 23, 2009
11:43 PM
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As a dramatic bluesman I'd like to say that some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
So you don't like an opinion of another person and you choose to bash him.
There is no good reason to bash people. It is merely for hurting and hate-mongering.
Sparking an edgy debate filled with ideas and fact that actually help is VERY different from bashing someone. Chris has never bashed anyone. He's done nothing but help and be a service to us.
He charges people 90$ (USD) an hour for lessons yet he still openly shares a lot of invaluable advice here with us. And trust me, people really DO pay him 90$.
What he knows is very relevant to modern blues and general harp playing technique. Shit, I bet some of you people didn't even know that he taught Curtis Salgado how to overblow. And if you don't know who that is, that's the man that inspired Belushi to create the Blues Brothers. No joke.
He's also given real lessons to Jason Ricci, PT Gazell, Peter "Madcat" Ruth... just to name a few who you all probably heard of... People actually fly down to Pheonix to stay with him for a week or 3 for hardcore training.
As a custom guy, he builds for Rupert Oysler. That's the guy who made THE dvd on how to custom your harps. Makes you really think just who the Buddha really is.
Chris has even played with Clapton and BB King in the past. Most harp players can't even comprehend the idea of playing with such giants and most players can only dream their whole lives and not experience things like that.
He may not be super rich and famous but he sure as hell has experience that he is willing to share to those who know how to listen and participate in a MATURE debate.
Now I bet some are probably speculating or questioning the nature of my relationship with him at this point. In the past, I saw him as an enemy. And I was pretty ugly towards him because I didn't even gave him a chance by just asking myself "does he actually mean any good at all by saying that?". I never asked myself that question and frankly that's just not cool. And I bet every time Adam sees that kind of SHIT on his forum he can only sigh, perhaps even cover his forehead and then shake his head in disgust. Adam does not like it when we assume the worst in each other. We're suppose to be like a family and should try to see that everyone is human and really trying to help out in this small close-knit community.
If any of you even think you are a follower or loyalist of the A.G... You'd actually know how to behave appropriately because HE'S ALREADY TOLD ALL OF US PUBLICALLY SEVERAL TIMES. Read the damn text on the main forum page if you haven't. And if you haven't, read his new topic post.
What truly disgusts me even more is how some of you attack Chris, and then when a few people say "hey you shouldn't do that, he had a good point".. And then the hate-monger apologizes to him JUST TO IMPRESS THE MBH MEMBERS AND TO WIN BROWNIE POINTS WITH A.G. People see through that kind shit. I won't say any names but to people like me, it's as obvious as daylight when someone apologizes out of obligation without understand WHY they should be apologizing in the first place.
It's even more disgusting when one person says something mean, and the rest of the sheep follow just because it seems "ok" to do it since someone else started it first. That's right. I said it. SHEEP. Baaaaaaa~
When I argued with Chris, I did eventually realize I was in the wrong. And I took action to set things right because of the guilt. He was taken aback in some ways because there are so few who actually see past his sorely misunderstood exterior self. Trust me, he can tell when you're full of shit or when you're actually sincere with your apology. He knew I was sincere.
Since then, he has become a friend who has helped me SO MANY TIMES. You guys won't believe the things I know and have learned from him already so far. It may not show now but trust me, it will in the very near future. Harp techniques and even custom harp secrets.
He's also a VERY nurturing teacher. I mean this with every fiber of my being. I'll say it again, he NURTURES. He has never been mean or condescending to me even when I don't understand certain things he's explaining and I go like "d'oh I don't know how to read this 3/4 time stuff you're talking about". He would take the trouble to point out what I need to go learn or where to find out and then when I come back to him, we discuss in further detail. It's wonderful, he lets me learn for myself first so that I can be ME and not be Chris-clone. He may say blues is boring to him but he is actually making sure I become a blues monster. He respects what I want to play and how I want to sound. At any point he's critiqued my tone negatively but constructively, he would then teach me how to fix it IF I see it as a flaw. I could not wish for better treatment and R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
Truth is we don't have some kind of teacher/student relationship.
In reality we really are just buddies and he's very human just like any one of us (I feel I actually HAVE TO remind you people that he IS indeed human and should be treated as one, it's disgusting that i even have to say that btw).
We actually talk more about all kinds music, movies, cooking steaks, world domination, etc etc.. normal stuff really. We joke around a lot most of the time. Believe it or not but he's actually quite a riot with a great sense of humour. It's always smiles and laughs when we talk about everything including serious harp stuff. We have literally spent hours just talking about food and culture.
I hope that my post isn't taken as a form of bragging. I am offering a perspective that a lot of you probably had no idea about. That's all I'm doing. I'm merely telling you all that he really ain't that bad if you actually bothered taking him seriously and ACCEPT THAT HE IS HUMAN LIKE YOURSELF.
With that being said... I am here to deliver a message from Chris.
After all the drama, constant squabbling, and putting on a really thick skin... even badasses have their limits.
Chris is done with MBH until further notice. He's not going to contribute anymore and most likely will not answer your questions even if you ask nicely.
Now back to my thoughts...
He didn't tell me why and I didn't have to ask him. I knew exactly why.
I can tell you it's not out of hate or spite.
It is in my hopes that -some- or maybe if there are such things as miracles.. that -ALL- of you learn from this if you haven't.
That there is a major difference with CONSTRUCTIVE critique and HATE MONGERING. That we should NEVER jump to conclusions unless we have the evidence to support our arguments.
And finally TAKE CRITICISM like a REAL ADULT.
Before anyone makes a knee-jerk reaction towards me, I want to say that I am very aware of my flaws and past actions and strive everyday to improve it. I don't think I'm perfect or better than any of you as a harp player. As a human being... maybe just slightly more aware. That's all.
Before I finish this message I want to say that I will NOT relay any messages to Chris for you and I am not going to discuss about this any further.
This is one of those one time only things and I KNOW I'm doing Chris a favour out of my own free will by making this post. Think of me whatever you want, I don't care and I am NOT open to discussing this topic any further. I see myself more as a mediator/reporter/journalist type in this post.
The truth is something I stand for more than anything else in this life. That's all I'm trying to bring out in the open.
If you have read all the way through, thank you for your patience and I applaud you.
PEACE.
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Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 12:16 AM
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gene
149 posts
Mar 24, 2009
1:37 AM
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Yes, ALL of us are human, and ALL of us want at least a small degree of respect. One way of showing a little respect is by speaking to people the same way you would want to be spoken to.
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Miles Dewar
254 posts
Mar 24, 2009
3:50 AM
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Holy Post.
"The great Chris bash party"
Not cool.
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Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 3:50 AM
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GGiles
26 posts
Mar 24, 2009
5:39 AM
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Zhin,
I am sorry to hear that Chris won't be posting anytime in the near future. It is a great loss to MBH and all of us harp want-to-be's.
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Zhin
171 posts
Mar 24, 2009
6:10 AM
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GGiles, I'm sorry too.
He's one of those handful of people I look out for when I come by the forums to check out the discussions.
And by the way for the rest of everyone... I know I said I wasn't going to discuss any further but I failed to mention one very important and meaningful thing (to me it is anyways...).
There have been times when he teaches me something super cool like the 1OB... and I get all excited and happy and crap...
He'll tell me:
"[12:11:51 AM] Chris Michalek says: You are still learning from Adam, do not forget that."
I didn't think it was necessary of him because I know it. The Gussow school of MBH is my root and base configuration. I'd like to believe I'm a "lifetime" subscriber. It is indeed the most prominent aspect of my harp playing life. Not even the gigs are as important to me.
But he still had to say it anyways because he wants to make sure that I fully understand that he isn't competing against anyone.
He's also making sure I don't stray from my pre-decided path. Which is Modern Blues.
I like that.
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Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 6:16 AM
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kudzurunner
327 posts
Mar 24, 2009
7:59 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that Chris won't be posting anymore. He contributed a great deal of valuable conversation to many threads here.
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Tuckster
141 posts
Mar 24, 2009
8:39 AM
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That is sad news,although I'm not surprised. The Philistines have won.
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JTThirty
30 posts
Mar 24, 2009
9:01 AM
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There is something fishy about the Mikolune user name and the whole baited thread. Absolutely no one here bashed Chris at all and in fact, most came to his defense, so I don't see why this post would encourage him to cease his dialogues here. Anyway--
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Oso
5 posts
Mar 24, 2009
1:33 PM
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This thread just blows me away? I cant believe this guy has posted in this manner... In fact I cant believe that kudzurunner is letting this continue?
And folks wonder why we dont have more places to go? I say ban him and lets move on. However I did see where you did ban him but in another post let him come back? Why?
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Honkin On Bobo
49 posts
Mar 24, 2009
2:04 PM
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At the risk of lengthening this thread, and thereby prolonging what started out to be a sad chapter in the evolution of the community (fortunately nipped in the bud by Adam) let me say the following:
JTThirty: I'm not sure it was this thread per se that caused Chris to cease his dialogues (though I don't know for sure). On a seperate thread he offered his opinion on harp gear, some debate transpired, and I believe Chris said (paraphrasing) - Fine, since you want to spend a lot of time and money finding out what I'm already telling you, I'll remove my original informative post. - (which was quite detailed and good - my words)That was the last message I saw from him.
Oso: Adam did ban him (mikolune), had an e-mail exchange with him, and is satisfied. He reinstated him, I'm cool with that, and it doesn't matter whether I (or anyone else) am or not anyway. It's Adams site, he calls the shots. For what it's worth, I judge him (Adam) to have been very hands off, and to have put up with a lot that other administrators would not have. Probably because he's got better things to do than babysit anybody. I thought he handled everything as fairly, wisely and evenhandedly as could be expected.
Last Edited by on Mar 24, 2009 3:15 PM
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djm3801
55 posts
Mar 24, 2009
2:34 PM
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Zhin,
Re: your long post - Very well written and sincere. Too many people miss the message and kill the messenger. Yes, Chris is blunt and his message strong and unwavering. But I have heard similar tones from folks who know spit. Actually in the world of Harp spit is a good thing so make that crap, in lieu of that other word. He devoted a lot of time to this site. I hope he reconsiders. I also hope perhaps folks here will learn to leave their egos and anger off of this site. This is a great place. Adam has done a great job with it and should not be rewarded by having to police a bunch of tempermental children. It is the first site I visit when I pop open my bottle of ale after getting home from work.
Hey, whoever opened the thread - looks like it blew up in your face.
Peace.
Dan M
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