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CarlA
66 posts
Jul 13, 2012
7:37 AM
I know there were some old threads concerning this topIc, but since technology greatly changes on a bimonthly basis, I was wondering if anyone has recent suggestions. The question is what video camera, smartphone, etc has good AUDIO capabilities. I currently use my iPhone 4 but for some reason the harmonica always sounds crap. It's not just my playing because I have used it to video other players who are on a semi-professional/professional level and they sound crappy on playback, but amazing live!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks!

-Carl
electricwitness
51 posts
Jul 13, 2012
11:19 AM
Just a couple thoughts...

there are some attachments you can get for your phone with better microphones... have you tried listening to them on a computer or in the car or even some decent headphones, etc? if you listen to it on your phone it will always sound "crappy" because the speaker is not full frequency and you will lose the low end leaving only the screechy parts.

good luck


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Fingers
185 posts
Jul 13, 2012
11:48 AM
Hmm, could that be why my videos recorded on my laptop never sound as good as they did when i played them? (or else i am crap!!!) :-)
CarlA
67 posts
Jul 13, 2012
1:49 PM
@electricwitness
Thanks for the tips. I have heard that iPhone had some type of external mic that improves the audio. I'll check it out and let you know.

-Carl
Rick Davis
513 posts
Jul 13, 2012
1:55 PM
Zoom Q3 or Q4. Excellent CD-quality stereo audio; okay video. I use mine all the time.



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CarlA
68 posts
Jul 13, 2012
2:18 PM
Rick,

Sweet! That camera takes really nice vid and the audio sounds great. I will check it out! Thanks again

-Carl
Steamrollin Stan
484 posts
Jul 13, 2012
2:36 PM
Who's the harp dude?......bar rockin blues!!!!!!!
Rick Davis
515 posts
Jul 13, 2012
2:40 PM
That is Al Chesis and The Delta Sonics out of Denver. Great band; Al is a close friend.

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Rick Davis
516 posts
Jul 13, 2012
2:43 PM
Just today it was announced The Delta Sonics won Best Blues Band in Westword's annual music showcase. Westword is Denver's alternative press and the authoritative voice on the local music scene.

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garry
240 posts
Jul 13, 2012
5:40 PM
hands down winner is the zoom q3hd, or whatever they call it now. especially if sound is important.

using a smartphone to record in anything short of emergency is no good. you need something you can stick on a stand, start it and forget it, and you won't want to tie up your phone that way.

my q3hd is great. attaches to a mic stand or tripod, records video to sd card, great sound. the only shortcoming, which i believe is common to this kind of device, is that the video can be grainy in low light situations.

you can see a bunch of videos recorded with it in typically poor conditions
here

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Harp2swing
45 posts
Jul 13, 2012
5:46 PM
Rick, do you know what rig he is playing through ?
CarlA
70 posts
Jul 13, 2012
6:06 PM
@garry
This is great stuff! Thanks for the video link. Is there any difference concerning the audio between the zoom q3 and zoom q3hd?
Rick Davis
518 posts
Jul 13, 2012
6:54 PM
harp2swing- Al is playing a JT-30 mic with ceramic element into a Bassman amp.

Here is another video shot with my Zoom Q3



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HarpNinja
2575 posts
Jul 13, 2012
6:53 PM
I have the HD...the picture is much better...it is HD and does better in low light situations.

I think the mics are supposed to be better too, but don't quote me.
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Rick Davis
519 posts
Jul 13, 2012
7:00 PM
Yep, the HD has better video. The downside is the files are much larger and take longer to transfer. It's not really much of a downside, tho...

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HarpNinja
2577 posts
Jul 13, 2012
7:31 PM
I'd suggest only recording in 720 as YouTube and such compress the shit out of the vids anyways.

I am interested in how things like an iPad with appropriate hardware can handle this sorta thing...
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BronzeWailer
719 posts
Jul 13, 2012
9:09 PM
I use a Canon IXUS -- can shoot HD vid and has good sound too.
garry
241 posts
Jul 14, 2012
8:32 AM
on the q3hd you can select what resolution you want to shoot at, if file size is an problem. given that $100 gets you a terrabyte or two in an external drive, i don't find this an issue. i figure you record at the highest quality you can; you can always trim it down later. oh, and you can also record just audio with it, though i never really do that.




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garry
242 posts
Jul 14, 2012
10:26 AM
i forgot to mention: if you want decent video, the most important thing you can do is get light on your band. from the front, hopefully, but at least don't have them backlit.

if you're playing a typical bar the lighting will be poor, and turned low. ask the manager if he can turn 'em up. places i play regularly let me mess with them myself. the band always bitches when i turn 'em up, but they're happy with the resultng videos when they see 'em.

when the lighting is poor, your video will be grainy and fuzzy. post processing can help somewhat (youtube now lets you mess with 'em online, after you upload). but you can't get back sharpness that isn't there in the first place.

here's one that came out pretty good. recorded from 10 feet away, off to the side on a q3hd with the lights up somewhat. change the quality to 720p and watch it fullscreen to see what the q3hd can do.






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Rick Davis
522 posts
Jul 14, 2012
10:16 PM
Some tall guy playing harp... (shot with the Zoom Q3)



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CarlA
73 posts
Jul 16, 2012
4:36 PM
I decided to go with the tascam im2 external mic for the iPhone instead of the zoom q3. The q3 looks(and sounds) amazing but I am not too fond about shelling out 300-350 dollars to video a few songs a week. The reviews for the tascam seem promising, and at 40 bucks, I am not loosing too much if it turns out a dud.

-Carl
Rick Davis
527 posts
Jul 16, 2012
5:53 PM
Let us know how it works... post some clips. I'd be interested to hear them.

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