Jakeyvimto
1 post
Jul 05, 2012
2:22 AM
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Hey guys,
I'm new here, wondering if you could give me some advice. I've been playing in a band for a couple of years now, we are pretty loud for a blues band. Up until recently Ive been DI'ing my green bullet straight into the PA, but recently had had sound guys turning me down due to feedback etc. Not too many sound guys here deal with harps I think...
I'm thinking playing through an amp would give me more control, but reading around it looks like feedback is even more of a problem there.
I've bought an ART tube mp preamp recently to sort out impedence problems, Im messing with an old epi valve jr I had kicking round the house.
I've been reading about the lone wolf harp tone+ with some interest, as that seems to offer some control with feedback.
Any advice you can suggest about getting louder and avoiding feedback would be appreciated, especially in small bars where you cant stand more than 6 feet away from your amp, cause there aint room.
Cheers,
Jv
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GamblersHand
371 posts
Jul 05, 2012
2:38 AM
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Definitely go for an amp - you'll have much more control of your sound. A decent amp should give more depth and punch to your tone than through a p.a.
Then if the amp isn't big enough to cut through the rest of the band without feedback simply line out or mike up to get a little more headroom via the p.a.
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SuperBee
368 posts
Jul 05, 2012
6:59 AM
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Yeah but if you're so loud the pa can't give you enough monitor without feedback your gonna have the same drama with a little amp miked to pa. aren't you? I mean youre never gonna hear that amp on stage, so you are still reliant on fold back.
For me the solution was a big amp.
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Greg Heumann
1675 posts
Jul 05, 2012
8:16 AM
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SuperBee is right - the issue is always about hearing on stage. You won't hear a small amp like the Valve Jr. So you're back to mic'ing it or using a line-out and adding some of you to the monitors - which in my experience is more likely to cause feedback issues than simply using a bigger amp that you CAN hear on stage.
Your ART box should help deal with feedback because it has a gain control. Set the gain as LOW as possible while still getting the benefits of the tube tone - and crank the output up to get a decent signal into the PA. If you're playing into an amp, then adding a gain stage will usually make feedback worse. (DO not confuse gain with volume. Gain is the slope of the line on the input/output graph. But because max volume is limited by available power and feedback, a line with a steeper slope (more gain) just means the amp is harder to control.
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/Greg
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Jakeyvimto
2 posts
Jul 05, 2012
8:34 AM
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Hey, thanks guys, this makes good sense to me.
One thing Greg, are you saying that the ART preamp will help me direct through the PA, but induce feedback if I use it into an amp? I had a half assed plan to run the ART - EQ pedal - Valve jr, but that sounds like it might be counterproductive.
I've been reading a lot on the net about gain and volume, Im still learning, but I think Im starting to grasp the theory behind it.
Cheers,
Jv
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