Leatherlips
105 posts
Jun 25, 2012
8:00 PM
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After last weekends marathon sessions I have found I'm blowing a tiny about of blood from my nostrils. It's over now, but it just goes to show just how much might be going on in the throat when doing a lot of hours hard playing.
Since the weekend I've also worked out how to get more volume out of my Vox AD30. I'm sure this will help the bloody nose situation.
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jbone
980 posts
Jun 26, 2012
2:45 AM
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i'd have to agree, if you're blowing blood out something is way too stressed. any idea if it's from the throat, or is it more sinus area?
i don't know how long you've been playing or what frequency you get out live, and i have no idea what a vox ad30 is like for a harp amp, but to me the amp MUST do the heavy lifting and get the sound out there.
i have never had bleeding issues but early on i would press the harp into my lips so hard i'd end up shredding a layer of skin off. i also get in the habit, with a loud band, of blowing out reeds trying to play louder. the problem with that is, a harp reed is tiny and the air chamber it vibrates in is very small as well. so try as i might i could not get more volume, just wrecked reeds. this was solved with playing with lass force ala barbeque bob, and getting more amp to put my sound out there. i also have my amp miced to the p.a. dep[ending on venue and what's available sound wise.
if all of that doesn't work i get the bassman out but frankly that thing weighs out more than i want to lug around much. most times the lower powered silvertone 1482 has worked for me albeit with the p.a. backing it up and carrying the sound out.
you need to identify where that blood is coming from and adapt your playing habits to eliminate whatever is causing it. to me that's a serious red flag.
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barbequebob
1954 posts
Jun 26, 2012
10:19 AM
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Nosebleeds come from many different problems, one of them being too dramatic a weather change as the skin in the nostrils may thin or thicken as needed but if the change is within less than 36 hours, it can aggravate things a lot, but that's not the only cause of it.
Too much breath force may be a problem, but it can also aggravate a problem you have had before you ever began playing, but to be on the safe side, you may want to go to a nose and throat specialist just to be certain.
A lot of times, too many players tend to play harder when the band gets louder, which is totally wrong to do because unless you have something like either a Kinder AFB box or a Harp King amp, trying to compete with a loud guitar or bass player (or even some rock drummers) is automatically a losing game and a typical macho reaction to do that absolutely NEVER works out at all.
If you're still getting nosebleeds even when you play much softer and let the amp do the heavy lifting, go to a nose and throat specialist ASAP because ou may have some underlying health problem(s) happening that you may not be aware of that may need immediate attention.
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Boston, MA
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ElkRiverHarmonicas
1202 posts
Jun 26, 2012
10:48 AM
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Nosebleeds are one of the first signs I get that my blood pressure is too high. I used to get them often before I started taking medicine for it.
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Last Edited by on Jun 26, 2012 10:48 AM
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Leatherlips
106 posts
Jun 26, 2012
4:23 PM
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I do quite a bit of throat work to get the sounds I want and playing too hard to get over the rest of the band I think was the problem and having found how to get heaps more grunt from the Vox has probably solved the problem.
Thanks for the input guys.
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FMWoodeye
403 posts
Jun 26, 2012
4:59 PM
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Check your blood pressure anyway.
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jbone
982 posts
Jun 27, 2012
4:20 AM
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earlier in m,y life my bp was really bad due to stress and diet and some other bad habits. my neck was a mess too, things were so out of whack that i had 2 vertebrae locked together. besides migraine level headaches i would get nosebleeds at any point of the day or night. being numb a lot of the time i didn't notice it much. i just thought it was normal.
in my 30's i began to let go of some bad things in my life and try to embrace more healthy ideas and behavior. one of these was getting my back and neck worked on and another was improving my diet. 25 years later i am still working on these things and having good results. the migraines are all but stopped as are the nosebleeds, which tells me my stress has dropped a lot. having my spine worked on has done a lot for me as well, i have much better range of motion, breathe better, and generally feel better.
i didn't mean to get off topic. there are a few things we adopt as necessary that may do us damage. better ways can be found to accomplish the same result.
one other example: we just got my wife an mbrace mounting system for her guitar. it's to reduce the impact of holding a guitar a certain way, and so she can sit or stand straighter. this will hopefully alleviate some issues with nerves in her neck, shoulder, and arm.
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billy_shines
600 posts
Jun 27, 2012
6:21 AM
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vitamin K deficiency. collard greens (i know i know, i grew up with them and i hate spinach) if your in europe get them at a turkish or greek market its what they wrap those rice thingies in.
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barbequebob
1955 posts
Jun 27, 2012
8:30 AM
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@Elriverharmonicas --- Thank you for mentioning high blood pressure because that is SOOOOO true. As someone who is a diabetic, has high blood pressure and a kidney transplant patient, I can attest to that in a heartbeat!!
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garry
233 posts
Jun 27, 2012
4:10 PM
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@lips: i'm curious what you've done to get more volume from your vox. do you use an amp stand? that worked wonders with my vt-30.
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Leatherlips
108 posts
Jun 27, 2012
5:45 PM
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Garry, I did borrow a stool to place it on and I turned the gain way up, both volume controls on full and adjusted the volume using the power level on the rear. No problems with feedback at all until it's wound right up.
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