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Paul Oscher in 1st or 2nd  position w/Muddy?
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harpdude61
1415 posts
Jun 01, 2012
7:01 AM
This came up a couple of years ago and some folks said that Paul played this tune in first and second position. A few said the whole thing is in 2nd.

I love Paul's work here. I think he does the whole thing in 2nd. Those licks early on can be done by using a lot of 1 blow, 1 draw bent and 1 draw.

The solo starts at 1:55...the high licks at 2:42 can easily be done in 2nd position (D harp) and what I believe you hear at 2:54 is a double stop blow bend on holes 8 and 9 in 2nd position. At least that is what is sounds like when I try it.

Paul has a nastiness about his playing that I really dig!

5F6H
1226 posts
Jun 01, 2012
7:17 AM
Starts in 1st, switches to 2nd at 00:47, back to 1st at 02:42, 2nd again at 2:57, ends in 1st.

Check out the Muddy Waters @ Ash Grove videos at Wolfgang's Vault there's some footage of Oscher harp switching.
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Last Edited by on Jun 01, 2012 7:56 AM
Stevelegh
527 posts
Jun 01, 2012
8:03 AM
That's my vid!

I put it on here to identify who was playing harp. Ended up as a pretty good thread. Adam even called me a troll. Heh.....

http://www.modernbluesharmonica.com/board/board_topic/5560960/1239479.htm
Michael Rubin
548 posts
Jun 01, 2012
8:15 AM
This is a good example of one of the toughest situations for a harp player. The band is tuned to a key slightly higher than Ab and slightly lower than an A. Paul plays as though in A, but is basically screwed.
Tuckster
1042 posts
Jun 01, 2012
8:34 AM
Did Cotton mentor Paul,or was Paul just a huge fan?

Michael Rubin-You've got a great ear. I didn't notice that until you pointed it out.
tmf714
1111 posts
Jun 01, 2012
8:46 AM
@Tuckster-Paul was given a Marine Band by his Uncle ,but was taught by Jimmy Johnson,a medicine show harp player from the south.
CarlA
29 posts
Jun 01, 2012
8:47 AM
" Michael Rubin
548 posts
Jun 01, 2012
8:15 AM This is a good example of one of the toughest situations for a harp player. The band is tuned to a key slightly higher than Ab and slightly lower than an A. Paul plays as though in A, but is basically screwed."

What's the best way to deal with a situation like this? Just ride it out and hope for the best?
Michael Rubin
549 posts
Jun 01, 2012
9:19 AM
Tuckster: Thanks, I just heard that although he was doing 1st position licks, they didn't resolve well. Then I got out a chromatic and figured it out.

CarlA: My best suggestion is step out for that song and insist upon a retuning before the next song. I have backed up a drunk frontman who refused to retune. Su-u-u-cked!
CarlA
30 posts
Jun 01, 2012
10:42 AM
" Michael Rubin
549 posts
Jun 01, 2012
9:19 AM Tuckster: Thanks, I just heard that although he was doing 1st position licks, they didn't resolve well. Then I got out a chromatic and figured it out.

CarlA: My best suggestion is step out for that song and insist upon a retuning before the next song. I have backed up a drunk frontman who refused to retune. Su-u-u-cked! "

Thanks for the reply Michael.
Maybe thats what happened to me yesterday at the blues jam/open mic?!? Felt like each of the 2-3 songs were off key, couldn't resolve it and it sounded like hell. Was kinda hoping that the earth would swallow me up-lol. I ended up just standing their like a pillock!

-Carl

Last Edited by on Jun 01, 2012 10:43 AM
walterharp
890 posts
Jun 01, 2012
12:01 PM
that is one place where bbq might even say you can break the blow hard rule.. backing muddy and the band is slightly flat.. hit those bends hard like Osher is doing, blow harder than you should to force the tone down a bit.. at least you will not be as far off.
jbone
929 posts
Jun 01, 2012
7:37 PM
like my wife just said, either play the thing or get off the stage and don't plan on getting back up! we've had a couple of similar situations in our times on stage, with a guitar that would not stay in tune and me trying to match the key as we went. and once upon a time neither of us knew just how high humidity affects a guitar and we almost blew a big $$ gig thanks to that, but we did manage to salvage it along with our pay!
my hat is very much off to mr. oscher on that one there.
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