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Frank
748 posts
May 17, 2012
10:35 AM
Hi Harper - here is one way it can sound...Hope this video helps you hear it a little better...


Last Edited by on May 20, 2012 7:40 AM
harp-er
129 posts
May 17, 2012
11:15 AM
Frank! I'll say it again: How cool is that?! Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to create these videos. I know I'm not the only one who will benefit from them. And really nicely done. Harp on!


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Matthew
belfast_harper
303 posts
May 17, 2012
12:38 PM
I have been stuck in 2nd position and always been scared of playing in minor keys, the 3rd position thread has been a great help.

Here is one of my first attempts of jamming in 3rd position using the same jam track as Frank. I stick mostly to the blues scale, but I did try throw in the minor pentatonic scale at one part too.

Feedback would be appreciated.

tookatooka
2938 posts
May 17, 2012
2:30 PM
@Frank 11 out of 10.
@Belfast yours was good too seeing as it was a new thing for you.
bonedog569
521 posts
May 17, 2012
7:01 PM
Nice Frank. - not a bad start b_h - I'm still feelin my way round 3d too.
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Frank
757 posts
May 18, 2012
5:56 AM
Your welcome Matthew...No trouble, actually my pleasure! It is easy to get tied down in a lot of rhetoric sometimes in certain threads, where for me personally, a simple video is what will solidify all the conglomeration of words a thread often accumulates.

Thanks very much Tooka and Bonedog...That's one way to play to that tune, there are many possibilities as you guys know. I'm sure each player would create a unique minor sound with their personal approach to that position on that song!

belfast, thanks for posting your version -I enjoyed listening to your ideas..
tookatooka
2942 posts
May 18, 2012
9:09 AM
@Frank. I didn't have time to comment at length before but I thought your playing here was sublime. Although I enjoyed your Little Walter stuff using the handheld bullet mic up close, I think that playing away from the mic (like in this example) is so much more soulful and you can get so much more colour in the tune.
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belfast_harper
304 posts
May 18, 2012
11:36 AM
Between the 3rd position threads and stumbling across Michael Rubin's 1 position video this week it has given me enough information to break away from 2nd position.

I just need to spend a bit of time trying to figure a few turnarounds and how to play the changes in 1st and 3rd position and I will be on my way.

Last Edited by on May 18, 2012 11:36 AM
Frank
762 posts
May 18, 2012
2:34 PM
Tooka - you sure you didn't mean sub-par... as Johnny Carson would say - enough of the praise, your going to give me a big head, and then my crown won't fit - hahahahaha...

I agree that playing acoustically can give a player great opportunities to explore dynamics in ways holding a bullet does not.

I just scratched the surface in that tune of what can be done ( especially by a PRO) - there is so much available acoustically to add life to the notes played...

When I listen to those tunes, I can hear where I had opportunities to really milk a note but didn't, among other things I should of done. But, you can't do it all in one song - you do have to pick an choose.

Again thank for your extra kind words and interest the stuff I put out there.
laurent2015
208 posts
May 18, 2012
6:30 PM
If I had a qualitative term to use about minor sounding, I'd say it's softer than major sounding?
And as we start from D4, I also have the feeling that "statistically", high notes are more present?
Now if it's possible to play hardrock in minor tones (faster beats), I don't really know what are the compared features between M and m..., by simply hearing them.
What do YOU feel?
Frank
766 posts
May 19, 2012
7:17 AM
Hi Laurent...I like to understand how M and m work with music, so I will play the harmonica in order to gain that information, that's how I feel.
laurent2015
211 posts
May 19, 2012
7:38 AM
I wasn't clear in my post, I think.

Frank, suppose you hear a music you don't know: are you able to claim: this is m playing?
And if now you compare M and m playing, are minor keys: more severe? more joy in it? more in the high tones? more sadness oozing out of it?
I try to find features...
Frank
770 posts
May 19, 2012
7:52 AM
Right, I can hear the M or m sound in a song I don't know because I have played those sounds on the harmonica. I'll hear a happy vs sad type thing going on.


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