waltertore
1873 posts
Jan 20, 2012
2:06 PM
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With so many things like: the size ones house should be, how much food needs to be on hand, the size of a bathroom, and closet space..... I sang some songs today about being grateful for living simple. IMO all americans should be mandated to tour the poorer parts of the world in order to experience perspective. Walter
link to the songs
I filled my grocery bag today
we live in a 800 sq ft sears kit house
living ain't easy but dying don't sound like fun
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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AirMojo
252 posts
Jan 20, 2012
3:14 PM
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Not to mention all the breakfast cereals that we have to choose from... and not enough store shelf space for the consumers... and I get that "I got a store coupon but I can't find the product to use it blues!".
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rbeetsme
584 posts
Jan 20, 2012
3:28 PM
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I for one am thankful for the choice.
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LSC
143 posts
Jan 20, 2012
4:43 PM
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Although I certainly agree with Walter's sentiment, as it happens, I know a lot of people who have gone to 3rd world countries, some on a regular basis including both my primary doctor and my dentist. My doctor in particular spends all of his "vacation" time in Central America setting up clinics and doing surgeries.
I've been to interior Mexico a couple of times and once to Turkey. Turkey was great. I really liked the people. The way they are treated by tourists however, especially the Germans, is appalling. The whole haggle with the merchants thing gets to ridiculous levels.
We were at one of those all in vacation deals where everything is included. On site you pay for nothing. There was a group of us, all Dutch except for myself, drinking at the pool bar and taking turns going for rounds. When I went the first time for my round I dropped the guy a 10 Euro tip. Tipping is almost unheard of in Europe. The Germans were being universally obnoxious and demanding but for the rest of our stay no matter how busy the bar was I was always served first no matter who was behind the bar that night. The word had been passed about the American guy. Pissed the Germans off no end.
I found out later the bartender I dropped the tenner on worked 12 hour days seven days a week and hadn't been paid in two weeks. He asked for a day off to celebrate his girlfriends birthday offering to work a 24 hour shift to make up for it. His boss said no.
I pulled out a harp one night and blew a bit of boogie, one of my party pieces, to much applause. They were all well toasted of course. I was putting the harp back in my pocket as I reached the bar. The bartender took one look and goes, "Howw Howw Howw Howw" in his best John Lee voice. It was brilliant. I laughed my ass off. A Turkish bartender doing John Lee Hooker impersonations. Ya got to love the blues.
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waltertore
1874 posts
Jan 20, 2012
5:14 PM
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look up to stars at night. that cures all my blues! My songs often go for more than 20 minutes in my studio. My music is getting to be more meditave than anything lately and I get in deep state of gone from this earth and a 1/2 hour goes by on one song but it feels like 5 minutes. I cut a couple parts out of this one. Walter
look up to the stars in heaven pt1
look up to the stars in heaven pt2
link to the song
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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billy_shines
37 posts
Jan 20, 2012
5:48 PM
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i played slide on saz in a tirkish music store one day. i came back a few days later to pick up my saz that was restrung. the master was giving a girl a lesson. the owner pulled out a divan for me to take a seat gave me a cigarette and coffee. the master finished came over handed me a lighter and a saz to show him how i play fake blues sitar. i played harp for a saz player in a cafe he called it jazz and invited me to go to anatolia on a cruise ship gig with him. the fortune teller like the way i read coffee cups she payed my bill. it is sooooo easy to get famous there.
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jbone
742 posts
Jan 20, 2012
7:39 PM
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haw!! we live in 600 sq. feet here Walter! and we could not be happier than when we're bangin out some blues.
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Stickman
730 posts
Jan 20, 2012
8:19 PM
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I'm with Walter. I believe all Americans should live, at least one month, in a 3rd world country to help them appreciate what they have. 90% of the worlds population will never even own a car! We buy extra cars for our 50th birthday, or to restore or because gas (cheaper than in most countries) is too expensive for our super massive SUV's. People in many countries live without or with sporadic electricity while we watch the game on our new plasma screen tv. Many (10s of Millions) have no running water and 100's of millions have no access to clean water. We go to water parks for fun or build golf courses in the desert. We like to think that we have earned what we have through hard work, while subsistence farmers work much harder than we ever will, just to meet their families NEEDS. I am sooo very thankful I was born in a first world country to middle class parents. How lucky I am to have won the lottery at birth,
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Miles Dewar
1182 posts
Jan 20, 2012
8:22 PM
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"look up to stars at night. that cures all my blues!"
Yes Sir! Everyday. You can't possibly feel low if you look up and see how much space is uninhabitable, then realize that some of the tiny bit that is lies under your feet. We are the lucky bits of inanimate material.
And there are plenty of great things to see with your naked eye. Nebulae, a Galaxy, Comets, Planets..etc. ;)
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billy_shines
38 posts
Jan 20, 2012
8:42 PM
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the term 3rd world was from the cold war
First World: the United States and its allies.
Second World: the Soviet Union, China, and their allies.
Third World: neutral and non-aligned countries.
soviet union no longer exists and china is now the 51st state. what you mean is go live in the developing world as opposed to the developed world. florida is very developed my power goes out every week. FPL does a great job. id like to thank canada at this point for turning my power on after hurricane wilma. after 5 weeks of living in the 3rd world and making coffee in a fondue pot using kotex and alchohol as fuel. while under a curfew with the national guard no where to be seen.
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Jehosaphat
155 posts
Jan 20, 2012
9:38 PM
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I've done a fair bit of travelling through the '3rd' world in my time.
We have often sat in a bar and been disgusted at fellow tourists delight at regaling us all of the fact they beat some poor raggedy assed trader down by 10(fill in the currency)whatsits.
Usually it equates to about a $ US.
Arseholes.
Price of a coffee in starbucks will keep a family fed for a day often times.
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Aussiesucker
981 posts
Jan 20, 2012
10:59 PM
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Australia & Australians are exactly the same as the US. An advanced country, very wealthy, huge consumers with everything at our fingertips. We all take it for granted & are very protective of what we have. Greedy consumers with massive appetites for all things new and continuing to create mountains of waste that is rapidly destroying our fragile planet. Whilst the poor of our world are lacking even the most basic necessities we continue to over indulge. A rude awakening is ahead. Recycled politicians with recycled ideas to return things to the way they were, with their promises of more growth, wealth, & consumption, are only digging the hole deeper. And China will in a few years be the dominant world economy. Big big changes are ahead but with the right people pulling the levers & working together we can all be better off....maybe not richer but maybe a lot happier? No wars as there would be nothing to fight over? John Lennon for world leader ....Imagine? And it's worthy of setting the scene for more good music.
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Andrew
1538 posts
Jan 21, 2012
2:19 AM
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Worst coffee I ever drank was in a Starbucks. It tasted of milk, vanilla and polystyrene. Why is that stuff so popular?
P.S. I've never owned a car, nor driven one, even.
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BronzeWailer
371 posts
Jan 21, 2012
3:33 AM
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It seems the poorer people are often the most generous. My wife was hospitalised in a jungle village in Fiji, and they provided what little they had free, refused to take any payment or even a donation. And they didn't even have electricity at night in the hospital. Even a middle-class person in a western country is incredibly rich with respect to most of the world's population. I try not to forget that, but it is easy to take for granted.
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didjcripey
180 posts
Jan 21, 2012
4:04 AM
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Some pretty big generalisations about aussies and australia there, Aussie sucker.
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waltertore
1875 posts
Jan 21, 2012
5:04 AM
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The first thing I got from reading all these posts is - why aren't you all writing/singing songs about this stuff? If you are singing them, please share them. It seems to have pushed a definite reaction button in your hearts and this is the stuff I long to hear. IMO blues is about singing this stuff. the classic blues songs were done this way much of the time. That is what makes them so powerful. Riffs, notes, techniques, are nothing compared to tapping into this vien. Most classic blues songs are easily copied but rarely ever have I heard one copied that grabs me like the original.
I had a feeling this topic would generate a good amount of response in print. Why not sing it in a song? Songs are often much more powerful than words alone. I sing stuff in my songs each day that would evoke near riots on these forums if I wrote it out instead of sing it out. This is the root to spontobeat- let your passion sing! From writing this stuff down and singing it, it can lead to just letting the words and music come out. Spontbeat is the easiest thing in the world to do and this thread is a great window to share this. I am off to work out and then sing some more. Walter
jbone: Even with 800sqft and 2 phone booth size closets. Our houses on this street were servants quaters for the huge old mansion/plantation farm up the street. I bet 6 or more kids were raised at a time in this cottage. we are still obscenely oversized in reality. My studio, the former detached garaged, is about 575 sq ft. I ride my bicycle to work about 100 of the 185 days I work. Only snow and ice stop me from doing all 185. being a poor musician most of my life has taught us to live simple yet still enjoy life. We eat real good, sleep on a great bed, have great heating/cooling, and have a full house natural gas generator for when the power goes out and it goes out sometimes for a week or more in the dead of winter. We still live like kings yet the next street over the batrooms alone are 2x's the size of our house. It is all perspective........... I got to get to singing-enough of this typing :-)
walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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waltertore
1878 posts
Jan 21, 2012
7:49 AM
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yes there is great poverty in this land. I teach in a high school that has the 2nd lowest graduation rate in ohio and most students qualify for the free lunch program. I have spent the last 20 years teaching in poverty schools in CA, TX, OH. I voluntarily lived in poverty for 20 years with my music but in my soul I knew I could escape because I grew up around people that did. When dealing with the full time music thing wanned I went to college and escaped. The socio economic class you are born in is the one you where you will most likely end up. Yes there are lots of great things going on with people working towards irradicating poverty. My hat is off to all of you!
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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jbone
743 posts
Jan 21, 2012
8:24 AM
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walter- no denying that we in this country are living much better than a large percentage of the rest of the world. but then, go to west little rock and see how the masters of the universe live- 3000 square foot homes on 2 to 5 acres of well groomed lawn, with pool, 4 car garage full of hummers and giant pickup trucks next to the lexus and the mercedes. and this is not a few houses but one after another. the bankers and huge car dealers and etc live there. it's sometimes hard to keep perspective.
i am a guy who has a work ethic. i have always worked hard and struggled to find some security. at this stage i expect i will be mostly dependent on the gov't in a few more years and that there will be no funds to keep a roof over my head and food on the table. so what is the answer here? my hard work has funded bank and airline and car maker bailouts, raises for a non-representative congress, wars that were unnecessary including detention of the innocent and torture outside any geneva convention boundaries. and all this was with no permission from me. so my hard work has been for very little as has many workers in this and other "developed" countries.
i am sure i have it better than a lot of people but the perspective is, we live in one of the greatest and richest nations on the planet. yet a lot of us have descended closer to the poverty line in recent years. no amount of hard work or seeming wise investment has served to get us into that dream so many have been sold.
i would love nothing more than to have a house i could sell and buy a huge rv to tour with. then buy a house someplace complete with studio space. the reality is, if we want to tour it will likely be weekend trips a day from home in a 15 year old car, and hope we make it home if the engine or tranny does not give out. if i miss too many days of work i'm gone. if i get sick and have to have a hospital stay or home care, there is no $$ to pay the bills or house payment. gas is its own racket, people feel so grateful when it "drops" to "only" 3.15 a gallon here.
i do feel bad about how this country is seen across the world, but IT'S NOT MY FAULT. i am not a decider. i go to work every day and sometimes i drive through areas that look like mexico or a war zone more than the prosperous usa. those are my people there, who have never had anything brand new bigger than a backpack for school or a pack of underwear for Christmas.
no wonder i am a blues guy and my wife is my blues gal. we try to hold to principles even in a world and a local community that runs on farce and duplicity.
i can sure think of worse ways to be in the world, and harder places to live. but THIS is where i DO live. this is the life i have whether it's by fate or choice. and i would have it no other way.
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billy_shines
39 posts
Jan 21, 2012
9:12 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_World_Liberty_Index
usa 8th most free country australia 13th
i drive a yamaha 115 mpg i hope gas goes up to 10 bucks a gallon so i have the road to myself.
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LittleBubba
148 posts
Jan 21, 2012
9:17 AM
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My personal income is less than half of what it was 10 years ago, but I think I'm happier right now than I was then.
I'm focussing much more on my harp/keyboard playing than I was.. esp. WHILE I'm playing & singing. I think I'm also more aware of the needs of people around me than I was when I was more intent on figuring out how to spend the fruits of my employment.
I have less money now, but I'm probably more free to share what I have with others who are in worse shape than me. I've just been amazed at how many people are having serious financial difficulties.
I'm very thankful for online communities like this where I can benefit from the knowledge & observations of others who freely relate their experiences, esp. since I'm playing music in a harp vacuum in Southeast Minnesota.
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LSC
145 posts
Jan 21, 2012
9:24 AM
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@Andrew-"P.S. I've never owned a car, nor driven one, even."
Assuming you are over 18 and have some form of employment, let me ask you, how many times have you taken a lift in a car owned and paid for by someone else? Truthfully.
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Andrew
1539 posts
Jan 21, 2012
10:18 AM
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@LSC. That wasn't what I was saying. I was just saying that you can survive without if circumstances are right. Or perhaps I was saying that such people exist, in case some Americans think they don't. I'm probably car-phobic, if truth be told.
I live in London and use public transport. Sometimes friends offer me lifts, but they don't have to.(I'm guessing fewer than half my friends have cars)
One of the problems of owning a car in a city is where do you park it? Some inhabitants have no car-parking available to them. I assume it's worse in Manhattan, for example.
If I move out of London to the country I'll have to learn to drive. Then I'll be experiencing the norm in America.
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easyreeder
124 posts
Jan 21, 2012
10:38 AM
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@Andrew:
That wasn't coffee, it was a coffee-flavored milkshake. If you want coffee, you gotta ORDER coffee. I've had good and bad coffee at Starbucks, but I've NEVER had good coffee at Denny's, McDonalds or any other chain restaurant, or 99% of the independent eateries I've tried, even when the food was excellent.
Harp Content: I once played a blues lick in the bathroom at Denny's.
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groyster1
1702 posts
Jan 21, 2012
10:39 AM
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I have been to london and you certainly dont need a car there there are tube stations everywhere plus double deck buses-even if you go out of town,say canterbury,you have britrail-london is the greatest city on this earthIMHO
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waltertore
1879 posts
Jan 21, 2012
10:40 AM
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jbone: Before you sell your house and buy a bus consider this stuff. I have owned 2 and to be honest I miss them big time but the cost to keep them running is high(like 4k a year minimum) and they drink diesel big time. Plus when things go wrong you might have to trave to another part of the country to get it fixed. They also depreciate faster than you can throw money out the window as you go down the road. We lived out of the bus for a year with no home to return to. That was hard. But, it is one hell of a way to tour! I will get another one if music provides but not out my pocket. We simpley fell into the bus, home ownership, college, and stuff continues to fall into our laps everyday. Life gives us what we need if we have dreams and hope. One comon thing i have seen in all the poverty I have lived and worked in is they don't really dream and have hope. It is day to day, get it now because in the morning it will be gone. I am so grateful for all we have and will finish out my life working with those that don't have much and will keep singing about it all. Walter
link to the songs
mankind is killing himself
drawn to the ones that are struggling
My wish for this world
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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waltertore
1880 posts
Jan 21, 2012
11:26 AM
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here are some more I just did. walter
link to the songs
little child please stop crying
I just plain dig traveling the highways
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
Last Edited by on Jan 21, 2012 11:26 AM
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djm3801
354 posts
Jan 21, 2012
12:16 PM
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Something wrong with bring successful? Came from poor roots. Both parents dropouts during the depression. Saw poverty in SE Asia in 1967 as a member if the US Army cause we could not afford for me to go to college. Worked hard. Achieved a decent degree of success. Live life to the fullest and buy what I want. Many folks have more than me and god bless them. Somehow that makes me a lesser person, incapable of feeling for my fellow man? Just asking....I am proud of my achievements and make no excuse or apology for them.
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LittleBubba
150 posts
Jan 21, 2012
1:29 PM
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I don't think anybody's in a position to judge you, just based on what you've revealed. One of the points is that materialism can be a trap that can result in self-centeredness.
On the other hand, producing good results from your life's work is generally considered virtuous. It's a matter of balance. Some people balance better than others, and after all..you live your life the way you want.
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djm3801
355 posts
Jan 21, 2012
1:32 PM
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Thanks. This current class warfare is getting out of hand. Very tiresome. Oh - Aside from a Carmel Macchiato, Starbucks regular coffee sucks...
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djm3801
356 posts
Jan 21, 2012
2:00 PM
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Walter, We share the same neighborhoods in northern NJ FYI. Newark and Orange.
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Aussiesucker
982 posts
Jan 21, 2012
3:33 PM
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The first, worst and last cup of Starbucks I had was in Beijing. I was jittery for hours afterwards as it was so strong. It was a freezing cold day & we really only purchased the coffees to keep ourselves warm. I can make a fantastic cappuccino.
This is a great topic Walter & if we all had your gift would put it all in tune. Music to change the world so to speak.
I have been to the USA a few times but seriously I am not buying into the discussion based on any perspective gained. I think that there are striking similarities between our peoples and yours. Indeed we currently receive relentless news feeds of your primaries contenders which I think any sane person, anywhere, would find boring. And I must admit I don't understand so will not comment. And we get even the tiniest morsel of news from the US making headlines here when a disaster in a 3rd world country gets no mention. We can relate to your miseries but seemingly not to those of 'different people'. Sad but true. I think the media feed us like we would feed chooks.
@didjcripey> sure some generalisations. We are not all wealthy & indeed there are the poor & homeless here. But we have safety nets that normally are sufficient but lots fall through due to many reasons eg addiction being just one.
@billy_shines. US 8th free country Australia no 13. I would argue on just how we define freedom. We lock away criminals and take away their freedom but we allow CEO's, the senior employee, of some corporations to rape & pillage our finances & our planet. We allow them free reign to pay themselves millions of $s, and they destroy our freedoms now & into the future. There are ample examples of the opposite happening with good generous CEO's. Usually they are the ones who have built a company from scratch, not motivated by greed, made good products, gave employment and improved society. One that comes to mind is Bill Gates who is now spreading his accumulated wealth around to assist others to progress. There are far too few like Bill Gates.
Freedom comes with huge responsibilities & should be earned not taken. I think some freedom comes from being self sufficient, free of debt & being able to make choices. Too many go on a debt binge (countries & individuals) and live way beyond their means. Some things defined as freedoms then have to be sacrificed to get us out of the red. The greedy and those who are influential muster forces and resist but the rest of us who paid in the first place end up with the tab.
I strongly believe in capitalism. I am conservative. But, I think that in Australia, the sell off of govt owned assets(ours) in the name of privatisation & in a sense a move away from socialism has been very detrimental. The sell off of vital necessities like water, electricity & airports to monopolies has further eroded our freedoms. Some examples like in one state the sell off and control of speed & red light cameras to a private operator means that one cannot go anywhere without the chance of entrapment. Once proven as a saviour of lives they are now far too numerous and the motivation is all about revenue. Monopolies own and operate our airports and now it is such that it costs more to visit the airport, to park, buy a coffee etc. than the airfare to fly anywhere.
Of course I could go on like a grumpy old man. I am. But back to practice.
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billy_shines
42 posts
Jan 21, 2012
4:04 PM
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@aussie im just saying what the world liberty index says. im an anarchist i think every politician should be lined up on a wall and shot for treason. im not moving to estonia and canada is way too cold. freedom begins in the mind. free yo mind and yo ass will follow the kingdom of heaven is from within.
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waltertore
1881 posts
Jan 21, 2012
5:31 PM
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here is one from this afternoon.
that devil in my soul
link to the songs
djm3801: I was born in Bellville and we moved to south orange after the newark riots. My family is all still in NJ and I go back once a year or so to visit. Where do you live? I am wearing my star tavern hat as I type this!
Aussiesucker: Thanks for the compliment but I honestly believe we all simply can sing what is in our heart if we let go of the self critisism in us. I could critize all my songs for mistakes made. I could polish my songs over and over until they made most listeners say-man that is a good song. Instead I have come to love my songs just as thery are. I don't hide behind editing and revisions. Think about it- the stuff that is big in your life could easily come out as a song. This forum is about modern blues and IMO the content of a song makes it modern or not. The old blues classics are just that. The blues is based in reflecting and sharing what is going on in your life. What better way than to sing about what is going on inside?
I just got back from checking out a vintage shure vocal master PA from the 60's that was in near mint condition. It brought back so many memories of my early days playing small clubs. Many had those PA's. It sounded amazingly good and I would have bought it but what the heck would I do with it? It weighs a ton and I have enough gear to lug around already.
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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djm3801
357 posts
Jan 21, 2012
5:42 PM
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Moved to Pennsylvania 25 years ago. Bethlehem. Had a back and forth with you a couple of years ago about our roots. The Star, I know it well. Popular place. Back in the 1960's it was always a contest between Star pizza and Toast of the Town pizza on Scotland road. I was a Toast guy myself caused they used a thicker crust. Star is paper thin and generally more popular. I guess so - it is still there and still popular..Good memories from back then.
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LSC
147 posts
Jan 21, 2012
6:29 PM
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@Andrew- I lived and worked in London. In fact my daughter was born there, Barnes, near Hammersmith Bridge and two streets over from Olympic Studios. Altogether, I lived for 25 years in the UK. You're right you don't really need a car in London. In fact with the congestion charge it's arguably better not to. My best friend lives in Wandsworth and is lucky to have a drive to park in. He hardly ever goes to the centre of London these days.
My question was based on something that used to annoy the hell out of me. My ex-wife's anarchist friends banging on about the evils of motorcars and then in the same breath asking for a lift.
@groyster1- London is without a doubt one of the greatest cities in the world. It's certainly my favorite large city. I still get over every couple of years and I still love it, traffic, congestion, the lot. However, "The greatest" I would say is open for debate.
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waltertore
1882 posts
Jan 21, 2012
6:29 PM
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djm3801: I remember now. These code names never stick with me. Toast of the Town was good too. If you ever get out columbus way let me know. I will make you a real pizza. Walter
here are a couple from tonight
link to the songs
mentally ill, homeless, in the snow
when the death bells call (solo harp)
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
3,500+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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scum
15 posts
Jan 21, 2012
7:41 PM
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Fuck, this thread sounds like an underground metal forum!
Are y'all sure you you ain't metal heads and punks?
I sympathize though with the frustrations of people and society.
And I agree with Walter, it makes for great songs.
So many underground punk and metal songs are about this shit.
Maybe I'll post some videos later.
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groyster1
1704 posts
Jan 21, 2012
9:24 PM
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@LSC
my baby bro has been to all continents except africa and south america-he rates sydney,austrailia tops and london a close 2nd
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Aussiesucker
985 posts
Jan 21, 2012
9:31 PM
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@ groyster1. Your baby brothers assessment might well be made on wild criteria.
My choice would be Adelaide where things are cheaper & all oldies like me can travel on public transport for free!
And OT each time I post the spam prevention stops my first go even though the code is correct.
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billy_shines
44 posts
Jan 21, 2012
10:05 PM
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not true scum woody, john hammond, robert johnson, leadbelly, CANNED HEAT.
leadbelly was the first to write an anti hitler song, when he was time magazine man of the year and a swell guy. and lets not forget bourgoise blues.
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groyster1
1710 posts
Jan 22, 2012
3:56 PM
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my baby bro was stationed in brisbane whilst in the marines-at the pubs in sydney the macho aussies would challenge the marines to arm wrestling-he never lost BUT after spending time in a pub,he tried to square off against a kangaroo,somebody advised"leave him alone mate,hes wild,he`ll killya"
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