harpdude61
1225 posts
Jan 17, 2012
8:55 AM
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My band is going into the studio this weekend to make a 5 song demo CD. Our guitarist/musical director suggests I bring my Double Trouble insted of the HG50. He says smaller amps are better for the studio. I really like the way the HG50 sounds but I'm not qualified to respond to his suggestion.
Please share your thoughts.
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waltertore
1865 posts
Jan 17, 2012
9:01 AM
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yes and no. If the studio has an isolation room for your amp bring the big one. If not and you all are recording in basically 1 room or your amp will be in a room with other instruments and you have to crank it some to get your tone- no. It will bleed into other mics and make a muddled mess for mixing afterwards. Small amps sound great when mic'd right. I use a princeton reverb for my guitar stuff I record and set the volume around 2 and use a THD Hotplate attenuator hooked up to it. That allows me to keep my volume at just above a whisper. Listen to my guitar and it sounds a lot bigger than a whisper. I would let the engineer guide you if you are not well versed in studio recordings. Good luck and have fun! Walter
listen to the slide guitar(on the left speaker). It was recorded at whisper volume.
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HarpNinja
2078 posts
Jan 17, 2012
9:03 AM
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Some of it is dependent on the sound you are after, but you can't go wrong bringing the DT in. You can get a great sound with either, but IME, the smaller amp will be easier for the studio to work with.
I've only recorded in studios that are really nice pro-quality places. Not that my playing met their abilities, but the DT by far had the best sound of all the rigs I tried. That included a few tolex champs, a Bassman, and anything else I could plug into (mine or otherwise).
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5F6H
1066 posts
Jan 17, 2012
9:48 AM
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Big 50W amps are great stage tools, but don't always translate well to recording studios, unless as Walter says, you can have the amp well isolated.
Amp size is very difficult to determine from a recording alone, so I wouldn't worry about the DT sounding "small", it'll be easier to drive in the studio. Remember, you only have to get the sound out of the speaker, accross inches of air to the recording mic...you don't have to, or necessarily want to, fill the room. My personal preference is a low powered amp that I can point at my head (I want to hear the same as the mic picks up) & not worry about feedback, still getting good monitoring (if you use headphones, try doing a "Van Gogh" - one ear on, one ear off.)
But at the end of the day it's your call, if you have a quick play of the 2, back to back & can get a useable sound out of the HG50 at moderate volume, maybe take it along as well, if only as a back up? Gary Smith, Dave Barrett & the forum's "7LimitJI" (Cameron) have all set up 2 amps simultaneously in the studio, one large & one small, mic'd them both and mixed signals/dropped out signals as required.
I do know players who struggle to record with small amps and are most happy with 4x10 2x6L6 amps, even in the studio.
There's no "one size fits all". You'll play your best when happiest with the sound yourself. Good luck.
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joshnat
183 posts
Jan 17, 2012
11:27 AM
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I've been dealing with the same issue. I started out wanting to use my Princeton Reverb, but ended up with my VHT Special 6 in a closet, just to get good isolation.
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harpdude61
1227 posts
Jan 17, 2012
12:36 PM
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Thanks for the great answers. I think I will take both.
5f6h..I don't really know who you are but you have always rsponded to my equipment questions with great detail and in a language a tech dummie like me can understand. I appreciate it. You should write a book!
Duane
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5F6H
1067 posts
Jan 17, 2012
12:57 PM
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Thanks Duane...maybe I will...one day! :-)
All I can say is that "everyone has to have a hobby" & mine is trying to de-mystify this "gear"/equipment concept...note, I say "trying". ;-)
Regards, Mark.
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Greg Heumann
1431 posts
Jan 17, 2012
10:31 PM
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I used both a Kalamazoo and Cruncher in the studio, together. I got better tone from the Kalamazoo. There is a saying that "In the studio big amps sound small and small amps sound big." From my limited experience - about 6 studio days total, I would say that's true. I would have no qualms about bringing the DT.
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