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K_Hungus
59 posts
Jan 13, 2012
2:27 PM
Here is a new recording. I tried out the tips, I got as feedback a while a go.

I tried singing more convincing (learned the lyrics), I tried singing more melodic..In pitch, singin the changes more. And without worryin about accent to much.

Please tell me what you think. Is the singin over the top? Is it an improvement over my last recording (trouble no more).

MJ
354 posts
Jan 13, 2012
2:34 PM
It sounds good to me. Are you playing instruments also? Nice job.
billy_shines
15 posts
Jan 13, 2012
2:46 PM
its relaxed not so tightassed as before. but a bit too laid back. you need to put emphasis on some things.
we talk very loud in public and it seems rude but were not being rude we just talk loud and emphasize ceratain words on certain beats.

like if were on a bus it doesnt matter if theres a window and the air is on, if we see someone we know outside we are going to talk without screaming as loud as we can to project through that glass and turn it into a speaker so the girl walking down the street can hear it.

i cant really explain this without doing it but heres some examples:

GET it cho (((DAMN))) self!
HELL yeah....
So whatchu goan SSSAY ((((NEOW))))!

listen to some bobby darrin live. he did it perfectly. frank did it but it wasnt for real when he did. not to dis frank his muy rapido delivery has never been matched. if you feel it your should to bump one or two words up just do it but dont over do it. its like a rim shot only with the voice. yeah its more like drums than singing dont tell the drummer to rim shot just do it with the voice.
oldwailer
1822 posts
Jan 13, 2012
5:00 PM
Well, if I went into bar and the band came on and it was you and your band and you sang and played like that--I'd just order another drink and sit back and enjoy myself--good job!
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RyanMortos
1231 posts
Jan 13, 2012
5:09 PM
Sounds alright to me!

But kinda what I think Billy Shines is saying, it sounds like you're singing with the lyrics sheet in front of you. Some parts sound maybe too matter-of-factly. Listen to Junior Wells version of this song a few times, notice the parts where his voice changes volume or he sounds more angry or the parts where he seems to have a maniacal laughter (dynamics). Food for thought.

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Last Edited by on Jan 13, 2012 5:10 PM
K_Hungus
60 posts
Jan 13, 2012
5:18 PM
@ MJ I only play the harp here (and the singin off course) I'ts just a backingtrack. I can strum on the guitar a little, bonfire level..

billy shines, I don't really understand your bus example. But I do understand, giving some words more accent. I should do that more yeah! I know what you mean by too much laidback.

Thanks oldwailer. I need a band! Working on it, work in progress. I'll meet a guitar player soon. It seem very promissing. He can play, blues that is..and doesnt have the urge to play endless solo with a shitload of effects.

Listing back..it's a little disapointing. When I record and listen, I think it sounds much better than after I get back. I don't know what that is.
K_Hungus
61 posts
Jan 13, 2012
5:21 PM
'Some parts sound maybe too matter-of-factly.' well said! I get that, a very usefull comment Ryan
billy_shines
17 posts
Jan 13, 2012
6:18 PM
yeah thats what i mean like reading a sheet. its feel man feel cant be taught. ive been to open mic my heart just not in it and split. unless im getting paid then i feel it lol. try singing in the dark its always helped me.
smwoerner
24 posts
Jan 13, 2012
7:45 PM
vocal tone and harp are both very nice...now make them not so nice...remember that cute girl that didn't do that...with you but, you later found out did with your firends...and it was good, real good, yep that good...now sing it, to her...she's listening :)
K_Hungus
62 posts
Jan 13, 2012
11:30 PM
It comes down to the same ‘prob’ as my former recording. But that’s very good to know!

It’s hard putting in to words. I can really relate to the lyrics and I feel like total shit, that should work woudnt it? Why can’t I convey this in to my singing?

Some random thoughts: Junior Wells has been singing this song for years, besides it’s his song. He has that james brown soul going. With all those little vocal extras going as RyanMortos mentioned. For example what he does on the IV chord..that Wow – Yeah – Yeah yeahhh. That really spices up the song with regard to feel.
When I record, I’m still tryin to learn the song, to make it my own. In the sense of timing, and enjoy doing so. Being in the moment if you know what I mean. And I worry about pitch all the time. (maybe that's what you hear smwoerner)
In real life Im not that emotional expressive as well..maybe that explains something.

To end a little positive, it’s all a process and I think I did learn some stuff. Thanks for all comments/thoughts I really aprecciate it.
eharp
1665 posts
Jan 14, 2012
8:32 AM
sounds very good.
everyone has their own style. this might be yours.
as long as it isnt forced, you're better off.
thanks for your singing threads because it is helping me.

how about a link to that backing track?
K_Hungus
64 posts
Jan 14, 2012
9:47 AM
here is the folder eharp

The track is somewhere in that folder, there are much more nice tracks in that folder. Thanks for your comment

Last Edited by on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 AM
eharp
1666 posts
Jan 14, 2012
12:45 PM
these are larry fritts bt from the other thread.
i guess i got start listening to them all.
K_Hungus
65 posts
Jan 14, 2012
1:08 PM
Yeah, I did they same and just made a selection. But they are on alphabetic order, so messin with the kid is easy to find.
eharp
1668 posts
Jan 14, 2012
1:42 PM
no. i meant i just downloaded all of them.
i hadnt even really looked at many of the titles.
billy_shines
21 posts
Jan 14, 2012
5:35 PM
ok this is my last post here i think. everyones got soul, everyone sings blues. this guy was a down green tobacco smokin sufi from pakistan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9v3RXHu84o&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL31B2A460F840FA86

he based his singing on scottish bagpipes, sometimes he cried real tears as he sang. he couldnt read or write and kept no lyric books. he also made his own instruments.
GamblersHand
315 posts
Jan 15, 2012
2:45 PM
K Hungus - I think it's definitely better, and does work the changes and melody lines better - though a lot of this song is on the root note of chords.

As others have said there could be more expression - the "oh no" on the IV in particular stands out as being a bit recited rather than felt. Also your phrasing is better than the first song but as this is a funk blues song it needs to be spot on to really make this song come alive.


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