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Using guitar pedals for different sounds
Using guitar pedals for different sounds
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JBharmonica
73 posts
Nov 24, 2011
6:32 AM
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Wanted to start this thread to talk about using pedals other than delays and reverbs.....rbeetsme asked some question on the For Sale page.
I am currently using:
Boss RT 20 lesile simulator-I think this pedal has good sound, control, and stereo out. the speed controls are great! The pedal can ramp up like a leslie would or you can use a pedal to control the speed(M Audio pedal)
Pigtronix Envelope Phaser-This pedal has three functions...It can be a Envelope filter(funk sound), a Phaser(more of a sweeping chorus effect..great in stereo) and it can combine both effects! There is a great function on this pedal that I feel is perfect for Harpists...it has a "staccato" switch on the envelope side. Guitarist have the use of a pick so pedals that have any kind of envelope or way effect work well for them but not Harp players...In the past, when I've used effects like this, I have to boost my signal or blow harder to engage the envelope. the staccato switch allows Harpists to blow normally and not have to turn up.
The Phaser is great because there is so much control with the LFO settings. There is, however, a fine line on how deep you can set you wave form. Too much, and your sound is too muddy.
Now for the big question...when to use them?
I normally play more rock oriented and more funk blues bands. It's also the type of music I like. I do not use these effects on more traditional blues tunes, except maybe the Leslie Sim, on tunes where I will organ comp behind soloists.
I definitely use the Pigtronix when I play on Cissy Strut. Funky
You'll find a Chorus or Flanger will add depth to your tone...warning, I would suggest using these effects only on Solo lines, not during chord comping. These effects are Modulate your sound. This may cause them to sound out of tune.
Also, using a Modulation type effect, sounds different on stage then out in the audience....the tendency is to use way too much in your signal chain than needed.
Experimentation is great! Using "All in One" Guitar pedalboards can be great!
I also highly recommend Native Instruments Guitar Rig....But, with any thing that requires a little bit of technological savvy, these can be a little overwhelming!
Many Harpists are Analog players in a Digital World! THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS!!!
As a disclaimer, I am only posting my opinion on these products and why I use them...it's not meant for endorsement!
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JB
http://www.facebook.com/jbharmonica
jbustillos@gmail.com
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shadoe42
76 posts
Nov 24, 2011
9:29 AM
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I have an RP 250 that run my sm57 thru for my mic'd sound. some chorus and reverb and a touch of EQ to boost the bottom end a hair. And then I have a second setting that adds some crunch to it for when I really want to kick it.
Then occasionally i get experimental with it using delays and such for those otherworldly synth type sounds. I have Richard Hunters preset pack for it and those are really good starting places.
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rbeetsme
474 posts
Nov 24, 2011
2:56 PM
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I use a number of pedals for stringed instruments, reverb. delay, distortion, flanger, wah, chorus and ensemble chorus, octave, tube distortion, Bassman and loop. But I normally only use reverb and delay with harp. I can see using a chorus pedal on rare tune or two, I'll have to revisit the others. Most of mine are single Boss pedals, I prefer to click them off and on as I need them rather than searching through a multi-pedal. I have found that some pedals just don't work well with a mic, overdrives the amp or something. I have a killer (and expensive) tube pedal that uses 3 exposed tubes you can swap quickly to tailor your sound. Allows me to plug an instrument into a PA or solid state amp and still get a warm tone and/or tunable distortion. Doesn't work with my mcs at all, just flattens out. A few other pedals do this too. I use 2 pedal boards, a Boss 3 pedal set-up for harp and a 6 pedal set-up for stringed instruments.
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JBharmonica
74 posts
Nov 24, 2011
3:08 PM
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What kind os mic you running? I think the Octave pedal is great on harp.
The main thing, in my experience, is not to let the pedal overtake your tone, only highlight it! when you get into distortions and overdrive you strt messing with gain, and gain is the devil! Especially if you're using a large diaphragm mic....I use a Ultimate 58...
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JB
http://www.facebook.com/jbharmonica
jbustillos@gmail.com
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rbeetsme
476 posts
Nov 24, 2011
3:19 PM
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All of my mics are bullets, JT30 and various Shure shells. Variety of elements, CM99A86, CM99B86, CR99H86, crystal. I haven't tried a vocal mic.
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jonsparrow
2672 posts
Nov 24, 2011
3:39 PM
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you can literally use almost any guitar pedal an get some neat sounds. even a wawa pedal. you just have to be creative enough. even hakenian (sp?) uses distortion effects and plays rock songs.
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rbeetsme
478 posts
Nov 24, 2011
4:31 PM
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I know Jason uses a lot of pedals, not sure anything I currently play demands it though.
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