dusty_Pockets
13 posts
Oct 09, 2011
12:53 PM
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I have heard the comparisons on youtube and have read a few archive threads....I was curious to get your opinions:
If you could ONLY choose between getting the BBE Two Timer and the LW Harp Delay for blues, which would you choose? And if so, why?
(I actually have a AFB pedal on the way soon...so i would be eliminatating feedback issues out of the equation.)
And price not being an issue between the two pedals.
Many thanks for your posts on weighing in!!!
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Johncn
5 posts
Oct 09, 2011
2:38 PM
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I guess it depends what your goal is? I have not used a Two Timer, and don't really use pedals much....but I love my Lone Wolf delay. It is simple, does exactly what I expected it to do, and gives me that little slap back I like on some songs.
If that is what you seek, I think it does a great job. If you need more advanced or diverse sounds, I don't have the background to do a real comparison and contrast between the two.
There are many more knowledgeable players on here, and I'm sure they will pitch in with more detailed information.
Hope this helps,
Johncn
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dusty_Pockets
16 posts
Oct 09, 2011
6:47 PM
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well...my goal is to have a versatile pedal...one which has good tone, and a welcome addition for some short or longer delay capabilities in my gig gear.
I read good reviews on the LW Harp Delay....both here and on other sites. Excellent sound from a little pedal.
I also heard that the 2 settings capability for the BBE two timer was an abundantly useful option when gigging. And that some well known players use this pedal over others...
Last Edited by on Oct 09, 2011 6:48 PM
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BeardHarmonica
36 posts
Oct 09, 2011
6:50 PM
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I use the Two Timer. I bought it because I got a deal on it. I never use the switch thing. My buddy have a Lone Wolf it sounds good too.
When amplified they both sound the same to my ear.
The AFB will really make a difference. I would get the Lone Wolf Delay, both pedal are sure to work great together.
Also if you want something that will really add on your sound try a tube reverb at your local music store.
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0217500000
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boris_plotnikov
649 posts
Oct 10, 2011
6:39 AM
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Yesterday I've tried BBE Two Timer. I like it. Not too bright as I expected. For Blues Lonewolf Harpdelay is I very nice too, but v.1 is muddy for me, but for blues it will be cool.
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hvyj
1843 posts
Oct 10, 2011
8:10 AM
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I tried a BBE and thought it sounded bright, but that may be because many other delay pedals DARKEN the sound and/or compress the highs a little and the BBE does not. So, what I initially considered to be a bright tone may actually have been an absence of coloration if that makes sense. Never tried a LW.
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toddlgreene
3379 posts
Oct 10, 2011
9:18 AM
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Like Boris pointed out, there are two Lone Wolf Delays-Volume 1 will 'darken' the tone somewhat, and volume 2 doesn't, and if anything adds a touch of brightness to it. Both are great pedals, but I prefer and own the V2. I seldom have the need for the ultra-long delay, but when I do, I have an old Guyatone MD-2 that has the short/long delay switch, and it works nicely. If you happen to find one, it will be cheaper than either of the LW or the BBE pedals. I can't speak for the BBE, but another nice thing about the Lone Wolf pedals is that they are True Bypass, so they won't modify your tone or volume when deactivated.
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Todd L. Greene
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dusty_Pockets
17 posts
Oct 10, 2011
10:13 AM
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Thanks! Fortunately the BBE Two Timer also is true bypass....which was "a must" feature for me.
I've saw the Two Timer going for around $135 (with the AC cord)and the LW Delay going for $158 + the cable.
I'm just trying to get a feel from everyone on if the $30+ some dollars is well spent or not.
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hvyj
1844 posts
Oct 10, 2011
1:05 PM
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Unless you leave the delay on all the time, I agree that true bypass is a very important feature. The BBE is definitely true bypass. The LW is supposed to be true bypass, but the website says that it has a buffered input, so I don't think it can actually be true bypass if the input is buffered. That's actually the reason I've never tried one.
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markdc70
96 posts
Oct 10, 2011
2:26 PM
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@hvyj: A pedal can absolutely have a buffered input and also be true bypass when off, as is the LW pedal.
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dusty_Pockets
18 posts
Oct 11, 2011
4:08 PM
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ah... well i think i'm leaning towards the lone wolf delay now. I suppose i'll bump this thread once i have one, and let you all know.
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HarpNinja
1757 posts
Oct 11, 2011
4:32 PM
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You can easily find a bbe used for under $100.
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Mike
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boris_plotnikov
652 posts
Oct 12, 2011
1:58 AM
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LoneWolf is true bypass definitely. Buffered input means that when it's on it matches impedances.
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dusty_Pockets
19 posts
Oct 26, 2011
9:43 AM
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I ended up with the Lone Wolf Delay. I must say....it sounds great....though....i get a hum through my 6v6 tube amp while in 'bypass'... when the pedal is not in bypass, it goes away.
Any thoughts on why this is? And a possible fix.
I am behind my amp...with a good distance between the mic and the pedal.
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5F6H
925 posts
Oct 26, 2011
9:50 AM
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There is definitely no hum with the mic straight in, or with nothing plugged into the amp input & the amp turned up? (Just making sure that the pedal is definitely the cause).
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dusty_Pockets
20 posts
Oct 26, 2011
11:42 AM
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yep... no problem with my 707a plugged straight into the amp with the volume and tone knobs turned up
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gritsncatfish
7 posts
Oct 26, 2011
11:56 AM
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It seems to me that most of the deal with the Lone Wolf stuff is the name. They say it's harp specific. Is it really that much different from a normal analog delay? I kinda doubt it. I can't see paying $150 for something just to have the LW name on it. Of course, if $ is no object, absoultely, get one.
If $ is an object, this analog delay will work great for you.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/rogue-analog-delay-guitar-effects-pedal/h05535000000000?src=3WFRWXX&ZYXSEM=0&CAWELAID=622291385
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toddlgreene
3426 posts
Oct 26, 2011
12:06 PM
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Grits, you seem to be quite the thrifty one...
LW is made specifically for harp, right here in Louisiana. All are great products, and Randy Landry is easily one of the nicest guys you'll ever deal with.
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Todd L. Greene
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gritsncatfish
8 posts
Oct 26, 2011
12:16 PM
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Not "thrifty". I'm just on a "Bluesmans Budget" most of the time. If I could afford the LW stuff, hell yeah, I'd get it. There might be very slight tonal differences in pedals, but for the most part, an analog delay is an analog delay.
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joshnat
178 posts
Oct 26, 2011
12:39 PM
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Except neither the Rogue nor the Lone Wolf are analog delays. They're digital delays with analog "voicing."
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gritsncatfish
11 posts
Oct 26, 2011
12:53 PM
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I dunno all the tech stuff then, I guess. All I know is I have the Rogue and it works well for me. It's a lot warmer than digital delay pedals I've used in the past. I'm sure it's not as nice sounding as an Echoplex but it was only $50.
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timeistight
178 posts
Oct 26, 2011
1:06 PM
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Wait a minute -- the "Rogue Analog Delay" is not an analog delay? How do they get away with that?
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MJ
306 posts
Oct 26, 2011
2:15 PM
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I bought a LW delay and returned it because I felt the 300m delay was not a wide enough range for my needs. I have since bought and own 2 MXR Carbon Copy delay pedals that I absolutely love. The Carbon Copy has a 600m delay. In my opinion, the MXR is equal in sound quality to the LW delay and offer twice the capabilities. Both are true analog bypass and the Mxr was a tad cheaper. I will also add that there was no problem whatsoever in returning the LW. I also own a Harp Attack that is a great tool.
Last Edited by on Oct 26, 2011 2:50 PM
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toddlgreene
3427 posts
Oct 26, 2011
2:46 PM
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True, as MJ says: If you want a longer delay, the LW pedals are not for you. You can get a decent slap-back effect, but nothing drawn out and long. I have an old Guyatone MD-2 that I use when I want crazy delay. It has a 'short/long' switch.
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gritsncatfish
15 posts
Oct 26, 2011
3:43 PM
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Guyatone makes top of the line stuff, so I bet it does sound great. I had an Ibanez DL10 years ago that was also a badazz delay.
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5F6H
929 posts
Oct 26, 2011
4:12 PM
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@ Gritsncatfish, "Not "thrifty". I'm just on a "Bluesmans Budget" most of the time. If I could afford the LW stuff, hell yeah, I'd get it." Hmmm. Yet in another thread you state that you have a Victoria 5112 & a SJ410....these things hardly grow on trees? They certainly cost more than LW pedals.
@Dusty pockets - If the hum is definitely coming from the pedal send it back to Randy.
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gritsncatfish
16 posts
Oct 26, 2011
5:51 PM
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5F6H: I've had both amps a few years. That was then. This is now. I'm on disability now, not as much extra $ as there used to be. Trust me, I ain't knockin LW pedals at all, just a bit more stingy on boutique pedals than amps I guess.
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dusty_Pockets
21 posts
Nov 04, 2011
11:25 AM
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Well, i have to admit. After a couple weeks with it now....the Lone Wolf is worth the money, IMHO. But... depends on what you like. 300m delay was not a wide enough range for some people. But i find it suits my needs perfect.
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MJ
311 posts
Nov 04, 2011
1:13 PM
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Dusty pockets, There was a good bit of advice for you in this thread. Glad you were able to digest it and end up with something you like. In the end, it's what pleases your ear and playing style that counts.
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