HarpNinja
1712 posts
Sep 27, 2011
6:49 AM
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I have a gig coming up where the sound is provided. What I would like to do is take two signals out of my looper. I want to run one to my amp and another direct to the PA. I do this currently with the stereo outs of my M13.
Would it make sense to us a DI to go to the board? Would I want active or passive?
Thanks!
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Mike
Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas
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walterharp
709 posts
Sep 27, 2011
6:59 AM
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doesn't hurt to have one in your kit.. can solve ground loop problems going to the board even if you have impedance matched right. active gives you some gain if you need it ever, but requires power, so one more thing to mess with.. when you go into your pa at home, are your sliders near the top so some gain would help?
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HarpNinja
1713 posts
Sep 27, 2011
7:10 AM
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I probably don't need more gain. Honestly, I tried going straight from effects to the PA with mixed results and a lot of experimenting. When I used an Opto Stomp and Kinder, it was a nightmare. When I just went Kinder to M13 to board, it worked fine, I guess.
My board has a place for line level inputs, but I've noticed clipping before, and when I go straight to my recording interface with a 1/4" it seems to not be working right either.
I guess I am just really confused, lol. At this point, if I wanted to go straight to a PA with my looping rig, it sounds like it might be a good idea. I have a show on the 6th and am thinking of not using an amp and going straight to PA. With the beatboxing, bass singing, and harp playing, I am wondering if it is a good idea.
Something with a PAD sounds like it might be a good idea?
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Mike
Quicksilver Custom Harmonicas
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MrVerylongusername
1959 posts
Sep 27, 2011
8:00 AM
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Sounds like you do then!
One thing about line inputs on desks is that they do not always have a trim pot, whereas almost all mic channels do. Similarly the EQ options are not always as flexible on line channels (sweepable mids etc...) so again a mic channel could be better.
As to active/passive, GOOD passive DIs are more expensive than OK active ones. I personally don't think the difference in quality is worth the difference in price. I use budget price Leem active DI and it works just fine: it has 3 pad settings and a ground lift, operates on phantom power and has a thru connection (to go to your amp). Sorted.
Get a DI that runs off phantom power and you don't need to worry about wall warts either. (a 9V battery will last way longer than a single gig too). I'm not sure about adding gain (you're getting into dual DI/preamp territory there), but a pad is a useful feature especially with Hi-Z mics without a volume pot.
An OK, active DI cost less than a new harp. Every harp player should have one in their gig bag.
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CamiloHarper
100 posts
Sep 27, 2011
9:17 AM
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I would try if I were you. I had too many feedback problems going from Pocket Pod to a PA. With a Passive DI BOX the problem was solved. Now, I can tweak a lot my sound before it reaches feedback Point.
I have a cheap ART DI BOX, but it works wonders. And passive means I dont even need a battery to power it. It has ground loop, and attenuator.
If you have a similar problem. Go for it.
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With some latin flavour for you, chico!! :P
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Greg Heumann
1282 posts
Sep 27, 2011
8:37 PM
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I've experienced 2 kinds of PA's. The all-in-ojne 8 channel type like most bands have, like my band has... and the house sound systems at larger venues that have a sound guy. The latter seem to ALWAYS have DI boxes in their bag of goodies. I've never needed my own - although I'm sure there is an exception somewhere.
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/Greg
Last Edited by on Sep 27, 2011 8:38 PM
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