geordiebluesman
442 posts
Aug 12, 2011
3:27 PM
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Hi guys i have been researching mics and amp over the last few weeks and i wanted a bit of feed back regarding mixing or altering my sound at home via a small mixer or PA.
I know absolutly nothing about this stuff and may not even be using the right terms to describe what i mean but i know i have seen videos of Hakan Ehn when he is running his harp and vocals through some kind of little Gizmo that allows him to manipulate the sound he is producing.
Is this a way to be able to colour my sound without buying several different effects pedals for delay or reverb or gain etc, anyway all advice will be of help.
Cheers Geordie.
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tookatooka
2412 posts
Aug 12, 2011
3:45 PM
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Have you though about a little Roland MicroCube Amp?
Approx £80 UK. Has built in effects. Delay, reverb, chorus, flanger, phaser. You can take the output to your computer input and record directly from it.
That's what I use but I'm sure there will be many more suggestions.
You may want to check out YouTube for ideas.
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geordiebluesman
443 posts
Aug 13, 2011
5:40 AM
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Hi Tooka, i actually have a micro cube and it's ok but i have another older Tiger amp which i much prefer and it is this that i want to use.
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eharp
1401 posts
Aug 13, 2011
6:38 AM
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you would be interested in a digitech 355 multi-effect processor.
richard hunter has developed patches that you can buy that saves you the time of figuring out the millions of combinations you would want.
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MakaInOz
46 posts
Aug 14, 2011
10:02 PM
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geordiebluesman,
There's lots of potential options regarding you could be talking about. A 'simple guide' may help us understand what you mean.
A mixer usually takes multiple signals (from many - 2 to 50 or more - mics or instruments) and outputs them as one signal (mono or stereo) - sometimes more. You can vary the relative levels of, and may be able to apply effects to, each of the input signals (depending on how fancy the mixer is). Mixers also enable you to equalize (EQ) the output signal. A powered mixer includes amplifier(s) for the output signal(s).
A PA system usually includes a mixer, amplifiers and speakers and may have effects built in or added on. Some have some (or all) components in the one cabinet (not very different to a combo amp), others have many of each component (like the PA at stadium gig).
A 'combo amp' includes amplification and speaker(s) in one cabinet and may have a number of built in effects (e.g. a Microcube) and EQ.
Effects pedals create effects (delay, reverb etc etc) in the 'chain' from the instrument/mic to the amplifier. They may be single or multiple effects, a chain of pedals hooked together or software programmable for many, many effects and emulations (like the Digitech RP355 mentioned above).
The 'Gizmo' could have been any of the above - they all have the potential to 'alter' the sound during the performance.
And then there's the post-recording sound manipulation/ engineering/ mixing/ mastering that is a whole new bunch of ways to change the sound.
My advice is to have a good hard think about what you really want to achieve with your sound and then look at what technology is available to achieve it.
One flexible option is a 'clean' mic (Audix Fireball V), a clean (Keyboard) combo amp and a Digitech RP555 with Mr Hunter's patch set - that will give you more options for altering the sound than you would believe possible for a relatively small investment.
Cheers
Maka
Last Edited by on Aug 14, 2011 10:03 PM
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geordiebluesman
444 posts
Aug 15, 2011
8:13 AM
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Thanks for all the info lads as usual the answer is more complex than the question but that's all part of the fun!
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