tolga7t
182 posts
Jul 28, 2011
6:31 AM
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Could someone tell me where each of these I, IV, V, etc (I don't know what they are called) are found (including diminished/augmented) when playing cross harp? (For example 2draw=I, 4blow=IV, 4draw=V, okay but what about the rest?)
If you give me just one octave (say from 2 draw to 6 blow), I can figure out the rest. I think this is going to help me significantly when learning new songs, so I'll very much appreciate it!
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MrVerylongusername
1801 posts
Jul 28, 2011
6:44 AM
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As a learning process, I think you'd get more out of figuring it out yourself.
Write out the scale.
Match the note names to the scale degree notation
Print out a harp layout for the required key and map it out.
Shouldn't take you long, but doing it yourself will help you absorb it much better.
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MrVerylongusername
1802 posts
Jul 28, 2011
6:50 AM
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BTW Diminished and augmented refer to chord types not single notes - you'll not be able to map those to holes
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tolga7t
184 posts
Jul 28, 2011
7:24 AM
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That's what I have been trying all morning but I came across too many things I didn't understand at all, which is why I'm here.
I rarely post here, only when I really need to.
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tolga7t
185 posts
Jul 28, 2011
7:28 AM
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Oh man I really wish you didn't say "Write out the scale" , now there is one more thing that's going to confuse the hell out of me..
I thought regardless of the scale we are thinking (blues, harmonic minor, etc) a IV always corresponded to the 4blow and a V always to the 4draw, isn't that correct?
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MrVerylongusername
1804 posts
Jul 28, 2011
7:33 AM
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yes, but writing out the scale will help you map the notes to holes, since all the layout charts for harps that I've seen have note names, not scale degrees
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tolga7t
186 posts
Jul 28, 2011
7:47 AM
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Ok, some info I found online:
Let's say we are playing in the key of G on a C harmonica. This is some of the notes that we get:
I=G=2draw
II=A=3drawwholestep
III=B=3draw
IV=C=4blow
V=D=4draw
VI=E=5blow
VII=F#=5overblow
This is the major scale as far as I know. So what would you call Ab (3draw bent all the way) or a C#(4drawbent) etc. This is what I am trying to find out.
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MrVerylongusername
1805 posts
Jul 28, 2011
7:50 AM
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bII and #IV
all the stuff about aug/dim doesn't apply and is just unnecessarily complicating things- they only make sense in terms of relating notes to each other (intervals and chords)
Last Edited by on Jul 28, 2011 8:03 AM
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tolga7t
187 posts
Jul 28, 2011
7:56 AM
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Thanks for the help.
What I am trying to find out is: what all 12 notes are called in terms of scale degree notation. What do you call an Ab of the G chromatic scale? What do you call an E of the G chromatic scale? etc.
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tolga7t
188 posts
Jul 28, 2011
8:18 AM
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Cool thanks for all the help man!
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Gnarly
74 posts
Jul 28, 2011
11:18 AM
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Shouldn't use Roman numerals--they signify chords.
Use Arabic for single notes--1, b2, etc
At least that is the way I understand it.
G
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